Redesigning the NY Times
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- hektor9110
There is no advertising on the left one... interesting..
- CanHasQBN0
TSDR
- mikotondria30
I think that the aesthetic of the newspaper experience is going to be with us in some form or another for a good long time yet. He's really comparing apples and oranges I think; to transfer a newspaper from one medium to another, brand and audience is like turning an oil tanker at sea. People, myself included, don't mind what would be perceived as 'clutter' on other sites. We have 30 years of picking up a visually crowded newspaper and scanning, scanning, preplanning what to read, scoping the leads, grazing past the snippets at high speed, and eventually settling down on the page like a nervous bird finding a perch in a tree. Once we've landed, we'll cruise with one eye on one place and another roving - it's a well-honed experience we're familiar with, that we learned as children, and ultimately it's a demographic undercurrent that will the brake on the change of newspapers' online style.
Magazines were always more diverse and cutting edge in terms of their layout. Many more page-turns for less content meant different ways to bring focus and pump the information at people and so it's this style of browsing that lent itself to the screen more easily.
We've already seen so much experimentation and diversity in the layout of sites over the last 15 years, most of us have been responsible for the inception and production of some of the less popular and less successful phenotypes. It will all trend the same way and in a few years the newspapers will look more like this redesign than they do currently, but there is still so much momentum behind brands and the user expectations that it's going to be a long time coming and by dint of the fact that so much time and money will be acting up the design, it'll be far more effective than either.
- ismith0
"Show More News"
Well there's your problem... blogs are as they are, newspapers are a UX in themselves. There's certainly room for improvement, but this is like using arrow keys to drive a car.
- SteveJobs0
i could see this approach being more useful for mobile
- acrossthesea0
Is there some sort of collected list of all these unsolicited redesigns?
I remember a zappos one...
- monNom0
he didn't redesign the new york times, he redesigned some imaginary newspaper that lives in la-la land, free of the constraints of reality.
- cannonball19780
^ Right. It's easy designing from a soapbox. In real life you have org issues where different business units have their own interests. Good luck resolving that.
- tOki0
^ I couldn't agree more.
- 3030
I am wondering, why Khoi remains silent about this...maybe, he doesn't give a shit any longer.
- He wrote about it.raf
- http://www.subtracti…Geith
- Missed it somehow, thanks303
- clearThoughts0
Lol - smart way of making himself famous in the intraweb.
A shitty designer though. Looks like the average Wordpress theme.
- inteliboy0
Why is this getting so much attention? Any average qbn'er could mock that up in 20mins. Plus the guy reads like he's an absolute tosser.
- raf0
His reduces remind me of IA layouts, like...
http://www.zeit.de/
http://bazonline.ch/
http://www.internazionale.it/
- jamble0
The best bit is that his design was called out by people who work on newspaper UX / UI as being exactly what you've all said. Simplistic, ideallistic, unworkable within any sort of constraint and therefore a relatively pointless exercise.
The child like response to being called out is better than the initial design.
http://andyrutledge.com/journali…
*throws toys out of pram for more publicity*
- cannonball19780
Design Provocateur at best.
- Geith0
Love this reply from a NYT developer. Gives 'im the serious beatdown.
- desmo0
Its great redesign, but I highly doubt anything like this can actually be implemented. Unless all the old corporate stone aged big wigs give up their positions and the use of ad space is no longer needed, these concepts will remain a dream ;)
- utopian0
"It is likely that these baseless criticisms have cost my studio hundreds of thousands of dollars or more in potential projects"
"Ad Age, Nieman Lab, and Media Bistro’s 10000 Words, made a point to publicly disparage me and inflict deliberate harm to my reputation despite the fact that the premise for the basis of their criticism was false and their own invention."
- itstimefortea0
essentially he can give it but he can't take it