Shameless arrogant self promotion or a genuine heartfelt appeal?
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- DRIFTMONKEY0
- Good ol' JamesGlitterati_Duane
- come the fuck oncannonball1978
- mrghost0
If you feel compelled to help, donate your money/time/blood?
You shouldn't need a t-shirt or a print to convince you to help a person in need.
- Fax_Benson0
pressplay's right. It's just the default response for lots of designers. It's not necessarily cynical or self-serving, just shows the level of thought involved.
Your aunt Jane's in hospital, she fell down a well and broke her ankle.
- shit, that's terrible. I'll design a t-shirt.It's a nice thought, but it it's not really appropraite.
- yakismaki0
... So here's the debate I was looking for! Really must learnt to articulate my thoughts a little better.
- identity0
- design is such a broad word, isnt iteficks
- communicating thoughtful action through universal, simple symbolism... works well for meidentity
- a vag and a loose ass?reinitialize
- mrghost0
watch this and understand the problem of charity.
- VikingKingEleven0
....Because you don't know where the money is going. That is why you feel uneasy.
This type of 'fundraising' doesn't really seem to impact anyone except the t shirt designer, if it even does.
- kingsteven0
I do think it makes a difference mono, not that she's actually Japanese but that she's quite well known and her work is often themed around Japanese culture... Also, she's giving all the proceeds from an existing work, not creating some bullshit cliche.
Even that article links to a worldwide donation page, not to her store.
It's like what you said on the last page, U2 use their fame to promote charitable causes, not their music... they sing about disasters, but the proceeds of "bloody sunday" don't go to the bloody sunday inquiry... and there's just no comparison between some of these design efforts and a mammoth fund-raising exercise like band aid (which in retrospect wasn't even that effective)...
- I'd love to see any one of these designers follow on from a print, continue supporting the cause for years to come...kingsteven
- I guess Yoko's support will continue as she can prove an emotional connection to the subject though her work.kingsteven
- "permanence of vision"... i guesskingsteven
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- NathanNice0
- a screw.akrok
- switzerland X japan?ThePublics
- omguan
- (barfs in mouth out of shame)cannonball1978
- Someone from Weiden & Kennedy did it, it must be greatJosev
- a screw. wow..talk about subtle failure.zenmasterfoo
- SteveJobs0
guess it all depends on the motive of the seller and buyer. hopefully the seller is altruistic and is donating ALL proceeds to the cause it's claiming to. and hopefully the buyer is more interested in doing something for the cause rather than flaunting their philanthropic deeds via the shirt on their back.
either way, it's a delicate matter and i think *that* is what everyone should respect regardless of their position on it.
- randommail0
If these so-called designers had any integrity, faith and understanding in the power of poster design, they would be making compelling posters that ask the viewer to help by donating to a relief organization like the Red Cross; informing the public by giving them the URLs and physical mailing addresses of these organizations. And doing these posters for FREE and distributing them to all of your local store owners asking them to hang them in their windows.
- randommail0
Here's a question:
What would happen if I took these alleged non-profit posters and ripped them? And printed them using my own money and distributed them to the public for free, without credit to the original.
Do you think the artists would care? Supposedly they're doing it with the sole intention to help the victims and not to make a single dollar in profit.
- Would you be claiming you made them as well or crediting the original designer?Dodecahedron
- not like it matters, i'm sure they'd care but couldn't do much about it unless they had large resourcesDodecahedron
- randommail0
... and I would donate a few dollars per poster to the Red Cross.
- Dodecahedron0
Its definitely a self-serving way of padding your folio and getting some exposure. Seems to be trendy thing these, I'm not so sure its that bad a thing but it puts a bad taste in my mouth.
- Its better than doing some noncommissioned corporate re-brand just to show offDodecahedron
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i don't understand the hate-on for designers making stuff to benefit charities. why is it so bad that they gain a little something? is it better to do nothing and donate nothing, or to create something and donate something, and reap some reward also?
just because an act generates some self-gain, does not make it a selfish act. it's like saying mother teresa is no good because she was building karma points for heaven.
i also hope that everyone that commented in this thread against these designers went and donated $100 to doctors without borders.
- http://www.doctorswi…akrok
- I agree, 2. So what if it gets the designer attention? It's attention that the designer designs for a cause. No harm, no foul.monospaced
- Dodecahedron0
well I personally just said it was self-serving but not that bad. thats not hate its realistic. It puts a bad taste in my mouth like a lot of people because its definitely not 100% genuine.
- SteveJobs0
2, how would you feel if you saw someone set up a stand outside the hospital near the disaster location to sell these posters?
the point is, everyone has different levels of sensitivity to something like this. and since it's possible one's deeds and intentions aren't necessarily in agreement, these matters are not that black and white.
- yes, not all black and white - i wanted to illuminate the black side with a little light.2