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- garbage0
Happy remix for a Saturday afternoon. It's all the bangers from their last full-length, minus their best rider who left the team. Insane the level of talent they have.
Also the dude with the final clip is worth $100m, which blows my fucking mind.
- garbage0
God, the type is so bad. And his style is so bad. But get past that, and holy shit. He's smiling into and out of this madness.
There aren't names for half the shit he does in here.
Rail drop 180 bar to ledge revert.
Uprail nose hard 180 toboggan.
Switch Luc-E hard 3 out?
50-50 doublekink uprail with an over hard 3 out?
There's so much more, but god damn this dude means business.
- fooler1
This is my exact GT I had when I was a kid (minus the bear trap pedals)
Only $3,299.00 on eBay to relive my childhood.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3640801…- horp will knock you one up for a tennerhans_glib
- Nice. Prices for old school have been ridiculous. They're starting to come down again now. Old school was a bit like NFTs...Horp
- ... paying high prices for basic stuff. I do love old school but there's NO way I'm paying more than £50 :DHorp
- I recently graduated to a 26" Subrosa and thought $500 was expensive. Then quickly herniated a disc bunny hopping off a 6" curb!fooler
- Hahah, and also... sorry to hear that Fooler.Horp
- I've not ridden a 26". I have a 24" I built around three years ago. That's my main ride these days. I don't do any.tricks on it, I just cruise around. :)Horp
- Way before my time, but wtf on that price.garbage
- Horp1
Ooooh BMX thread hello!
- Horp1
I ought to post some of my builds/repaints in here I guess.
I'd probably start with a 24" race frame I built up and painted in the most reeediculous way, and somebody went nuts for it and gave me a fortune for it (relatively speaking).
I kind of felt bad about it, because the components on it were terrible, but.... people insist.
It looks almost quite good, but mostly quite comical.
- Horp1
But maybe I'll start at the beginning with my 1982 Hawk Scorcher.
This was a "BMX style bike" that Woolworth sold complete with big labels warning buyers that it was only a BMX *style* bike and was not suitable for doing tricks on. It cost about £20. For comparison the base level Raleigh Burner... the very shittest Burner with no mod cons... cost about £90. So the Scorcher was truly bargain basement stuff.
But I loved it. I earned money in my dad's print shop and spent it all on better components. All the other kids used to laugh at me for riding a shitty Scorcher, so I rode it harder and took more chances and wiped those grins clean off.
It has Pro-Star stickers on, to disguise it's true identity :)
- I would give my right arm to have my Scorcher back today.Horp
- Jesus that top tube is so skinny.garbage
- It was 1981, they were all skinny.Horp
- That bike took a hammering, and despite Scorchers having a reputation for terrible welds that failed under pressure, mine never did... thank the fictional godsHorp
- and those wheels were awesome. Some kind of cheap wannabee Skyway effort. They had an Italian name. Benelli or some such.Horp
- I used to race it, and I'd do pretty good. Everyone else was on expensive highly desirable bikes, and I had (almost literally) nothing to lose.Horp
- Yeah, guessing it is aluminum not 4130. My first frames were all aluminum hand-me-downs from a friend that raced and was winning statewide comps.garbage
- Redline, Mosh, Free Agent. Folded all of them in half because all I wanted to do was ride street.garbage
- Hahah no it wasn't Aluminium, it was steel, and I don't think it was hi-tensile steel. It was the absolute cheapest BMX ever.Horp
- People on BMX museum say they them with burn holes in the welding, nubs of welding rod sticking out of joins, chromed along with everything else.Horp
- They were notorious for collapsing on a hard landing. My friends would all say "don't jump, it'll break" it never did though. I got lucky plus I weighed nothingHorp
- Horp1
Anybody here know anything about the modern world of GTs?
I've just finished my current build and I'm looking at the carcasses that donated parts, and I have enough parts to make up one more bike to sell cheap and recoup the few quid I spent getting the parts.
I'm guessing it's a mid-school era bike. It weighs 100 tonnes and seems to be made out of anti-tank plating.
Takes 14mm axles front and back. Has brackets for a Giro (got the giro. I hate giros)
Would be interested to know if this is a known bike. I'm 100% sure it's a Taiwanese pice of shit, but before I strip the paint off and use up the very last bit of my gold paint turning it into a glam rock piece of shit, I thought I'd see if anyone says "Oh yeah that's the GT MegaTurd frm 1998"
Pics...
- Pacman forks place it somewhere between 97 and 2001 apparently.Horp
- Personally I think it's a fucking horrible looking thing, but looking at pics of them in full fettle, I can see it looking pretty with the right parts & decalsHorp
- ^ Not that it will be getting those from me.
*Throws Gold Paint At It*Horp - Wow some of these old GTs are real pretty...
https://bmxmuseum.co…Horp - I’m a member of OLD SCHOOL BMX on FB, has 300k members, answers come quick https://www.facebook…prophetone
- Looks like an early 2000s mid schoolprophetone
- Been through the entire catalogue for the pacman years. Can't find it. They may be hokey forks. Just been looking at 2012-2013 in case they did them then too.Horp
- I'll ask in the OSBMX FB group, thanks Prophetone!Horp
- LOL I think they shit-canned my request :)
It is a midschool frame though so fair enough I guess.Horp - It's bugging me now. I was just going to do a quick n dirty paint job and throw it together for a £30 sale. BUT NOW I MUST KNOW WHAT IT IS.Horp
- Possibly an 05 Performer?
https://bmxmuseum.co…prophetone - Look at even the fork dropouts, is similar https://bmxmuseum.co…prophetone
- Might be up or down a year?prophetone
- OOOOH! Yes. Handlebars are the same shape too. 2nd link doesn't have pacmans but I reckon these are knock of Tai Pacmans. They look cronky.Horp
- Thanks Prophetone. Guess which year I gave up looking on...
... 2004 :)Horp - And KERCHING! This bad boy could earn me $30
*buys a Maserati*Horp - Or you could just trade it for a gold plated Hutch Trickstarprophetone
- I got a 80s Kuwie Apollo frame/fork/bar here that's thrashed and plan to strip it, paint it gloss piano black, maybe go anodized gold, yellow rubber routeprophetone
- Sounds nice P. Got any pics of it right now?
I do love a gloss black frame. I generally do all of mine gloss black because you cannot go wrong with that.Horp - Also, anodised Bear Traps would look lush on a Kuw I think. I ought to show you my absolute travesty of a 24" Kuw-a-like I made up from a Felt racing frame.Horp
- I wanna go this route with it, altho mine is originally a pink 1985 Kuwahara Super Nova Apollo? So a new color, style, black gold anodized and yellowprophetone
- this route, these guys dod a great job with this survivor: https://www.youtube.… - and a big yes to a set of yellow bear trapsprophetone
- Horp2
Welllllp
I got the itch today to throw some parts on my current frame and forks today, so I could take it for a very gentle shakedown ride.
The frame and forks are a 2018 (I think) WTP Trust. Cost me £12. They were part of an estate clearance and had been left in the back garden to rust. They were once matt black or a dark grey... hard to tell... but they had been scratched and dinked, so had gone very scabby all over. Not pretty.
Full strip down, rust flush inside the frame (Hydrate 80) and Hydrate 80 brushed on the outside too.
Usually I take these to my friend's paint shop and spray paint them properly, but I wanted to do this bike quickly and not care too much about it.
So I used the brush-on primer for Tekaloid coach enamel, and then a coat of Tekaloid black.
Flatted back for a smooth surface, and then the childlike nonsense began.
I have gold and black Signwriter's enamel to hand, so I just went into exciteable child mode and slapped it all over the place. I built it up layer by layer... from black with a bit of gold in it, to gold with bit of black in it, and finally pure gold stripes to finish off.
Then I built it up out of parts from my parts bin. Not very good parts, but I didn't want to spend ANY money at all on this. It is a bona fide parts bin banger.
The one piece seat and handlebars are Cult, from another Cult I did a while back. Bars were light grey, now gloss black. The grips are Eclat freebies from Source BMX when I was spending way too much money on all the latest parts a while back. The stem will be a point of much derision for some I am sure, but I really love the brutal simplicity of two rectangular blocks with no design features. It's an SE stem off a So Cal Flyer. Not tightened correctly just yet. Uneven gaps. Salt headset I bought for another project but never used.
Front wheel has a GT 14mm Hub which I have converted to take a 10mm axle (cuz 10mm fork dropouts). The rim is a wide, thickwall single layer alloy rim. Good for general thrashing but would fold instantly on a heavy landing.
Front tire will be replaced by a new Oddysey Pathfinder as per the rear. Ideally I'd ideally like 230s but the Odysseys are in my parts bin so *shrugs*. They are 210s (I think). The Kenda Kiniption currently on the front has cracked all the way around both sides, so would blow almost instantly on landing.
The chainwheel is a Fly 23t which I painted black from emerald green. The cranks are off the GT for now, as they were very light. Were brown, now gloss black. I will strip and paint the Fly cranks at some point because these are 175s and I prefer 165s (Flys are 170). I had two brand new BB bearings so they went in today. Pedals are Odyssey Twists because I had them in my parts bin.
Chain is a skinny horrible piece of shit Cult thing that could well be 15 years old, but it'll do until it snaps. I don't have a matching half link so for now the rear wheel is almost popping out the stays in an effort to make the chain reasonably taut. I might slam the back wheel if I can make the chain work that way.
Overall, it looks a bit like Bet Lynch's favourite coat (UK reference) and I might actually christen it "The Lynch"
Hate away. I'll be trying to sell this for as much as possible once I've had a bit of fun on it and changed the last few bits over.
It will remain brakeless. I only have horrible Tektro units off the two shit bikes I bought recently. The levers are truly horrible looking, so I'm not going to put brakes on this.
- Remove one "today"Horp
- Pathfinders are 185s.
Skinny bastards.Horp - I will be taking The Lynch to my local ramps tomorrow, once the tire is changed and I can be sure all the bolts are tight. So I might die.Horp
- I quite like the idea of skinny tireswhen everyone else is going fat though. I'm a belligerent cunt like that.Horp
- Same with the SE bar clamp. I could put a really nice Eclat one on, but this one will annoy people. I sometimes put my clamp upside down for that reason too :DHorp
- Oh no I think I upvoted myself. Gat thumbs, tiny phone screen.Horp
- Throw them bars.garbage
- Bars are a tad too far back for me right now. But I wont be going Chicago, just a little more upright for a neutral steer.Horp
- What is it with you and bars Garbage? Did get beat up for having Chicago bars? You set those bars however you want them. Anybody says anything... whupass.Horp
- Horp0
Told myself I wouldn't do any detail on this parts bin banger. Just change the tyres. That's all. Change the tires.
Yeah, so off comes the crappy old Kiniption tire, and now I'm re-blacking the rim and the spokes, like an idiot. And I can't settle for 185 tires so I'm using the 210s I was keeping for the next build.
Why can't I just leave shit alone? A 15 minute job is now a 24 hour job.
- kaiyohtee0
I wish I could afford all the CW Shaker and PK Rippers I keep seeing on eBay. $2k is a bit steep for a bmx.
- Horp0
Took Bet Lynch for it's first ride today. Test ride. Boy am I out of shape.
During lockdown I was 8ft in the air on the local ramps and could ride a 20" wheel all day long.
Today I went two miles on the flat, smooth seafront and it damn near killed me. By the time I got home my vision was strobing.
Not good at all.
But, first time riding brakeless and it didn't take long at all to get used to it. So now I can take the brake lugs off and the cable holders. I might never need to put a set of brakes on a BMX ever again.
14mm - 10mm axle conversion is perfect. Rear wheel needs stripping and rebuilding though. I did it quickly in my haste to mock up and ride, and by the time I got home there was a little bit of play.
Bars set too far back for me, and I need to ease off the headset as it's a little tight and makes the steering jaggy. Hopefully I haven't mashed the headset bearings already, but I think it will be okay.
Got my nice camera out for some nice shots for the sale ad. I would post them but ehhh it's too many steps to post pics here, and what's more the only uploader I can find that gives a .jpg file seems to compress the absolute shit out of pictures (imgbb).
Any better free ones out there, let me know. Imgur does not seem to want to give me the .dot files.
- 14mm to 10mm conversion is the Front wheel. I am not sure why everybody says it isn't possible to fit a 10mm axle in a 14mm hub. I've done 3 and it's piss easy.Horp
- Finally figured out why the headset felt tight. Been trying to set it all night, then a forehead slap moment. I had completely forgotten about...Horp
- ... the split ring on the top bearing. Too dark to go and hunt for it in my parts bin, but I suspect I may have lost it. Annoying.Horp
- Found the split compressor ring. Steering now dialled in perfecto
*chef's kiss*Horp
- Horp0
Also, on my ride, I passed a man on one of these...
https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/emme…
Might not have been the same year but it was a gold Rodeo. From a distance it looked mint. I thought it was some kind of flatland frame and I'm not good with flatland bmx knowledge.
So I went over and said what a cool bike it was. Up close, it was a huge mess. The original gold and clearcoat were all eaten away at the edges. The tires were a hundred years old and shot to shit, but they had been hand painted as whitewalls using, I guess, a stray dog as a paint brush.
But it would have been a great bike to restore.
What a load of shit the owner started telling me though, instantly.
He'd built it himself in Sudan. It was covered in real gold. Inside the shitty one piece crank, where I couldn't see it of course, he had remade "all of the rings and gears" out of solid gold.
He rides it everyday to Eastbourne (fucking miles away. An hour by car if there's no traffic) and he sets off the same time as the bus but he's always drinking coffee by the time the bus pulls in.
Literally just saying "nice bike" triggered an endless cascade of fantastical nonsense that absolutely nobody would ever be able to believe.
I smiled, said goodbye, and rode away.
It makes me sad that people talk utter bollocks. We could have had a nice chat. I could have fixed that piece of shit for him. It would be a great bike to restore and make good.
Oh well.
- fooler1
- I have a So Cal Flyer. Had it for years but lately when I'm on it kids shout "YO SICK MAN! DO A WHEELIE" and I say "No, I'm 53". I only have myself to blame.Horp
- I spent hrs&£s repainting my so cal black, buying all black parts. Showed it to Todd Lyons on FB. He added stealth black to the range. You can just buy one now.Horp
- Horp0
Some screen grabs of Bet Lynch. They're not great photos. I blame the hurricane winds we're having on the coast, which kept blowing my bike over, so I wasn't really concentrating on what I was doing.
It was insanely bright so I could have gone down to a really slow film speed.
I was shooting at f1.4 and that's TOO wide. I just wanted separation of subject from background but for most of the shots I took, I got a kind of pseudo tilt-shift effect.
I was so enraged generally by the mischevious wind ( I fucking hate the wind) that I often didn't even think to put the big black box on the FAR side of the bike. Fucking amateur.
But anyway, a few random screen grabs of Bet Lynch. There may be repetition of images, I don't care enough to "Curate My Bullshit"
weird QBN imheritance... I still use the name HORP for random things
GT 14mm hub with a 10mm axle because my drop outs are 10mm...
The reason I'm naming it Bet Lynch for non-UK disinterested parties...
- That's so sick. There's a Seattle local that actually lives in my neighborhood named Hoder. He rocks gold bikes from time to time.garbage
- https://www.youtube.…garbage
- Dude is nuts. He'd probably rock a custom or yours.garbage
- I feel like I know the name Mike Hoder, but I terrible with names... rider names, trick names... terrible. Great little video though :)Horp
- He's been at it for some time. His name also rings, because that's his graffiti tag lol. Dude's a bit nuts.garbage
- Horp0
Dammit Garbage, I think your talk about busting bb bearings on install has cursed me.
I'm fine tuning and setting in the various moving parts on Bet Lynch after riding for a while. "Dialling my bike in" as the kids like to say.
I pressed my BB bearings in in the usual way, with my bearing tool and all the trimmings. But one of them feels a bit clocky, and when I'm pedaling hard it's noticeably notchy and clicky.
So I took the bottom bracket out. And sure enough one bearing pack was stuff and notchy.
Hmmmm
I have a limited store of bb bearings, so I just used the junk redline frame and some old bearings to have a practise run. To see what I might be doing wrong or forgetting to do.
Cleaned out the Chambers with a light burnishing brush head, went with Copperslip to guide everything in.
Wound the bearings in, easy, effortless, straight in and squarely bedded.
Great.
Checked them for rotation...
Like turning the cogs of a grandfather clock dredged up from the Titanic.
What the actual? That was a perfect install, and although the bearings were old/used, they felt almost perfect before the install.
- Horp-2
This is how easy it is to sell a BMX for profit.
That said, I haven't sold it. I always check out who is asking when on FB marketplace and this guy was a serious 'roid abuser. He looked like a bunch of giant pantyhose stuffed with bolders. A bit of a self parody character, and reading his FB posts I was immediately thinking NOPE.
I have the bike on at £250 but it has cost me nothing but my time and a few bearings so honestly I'd be happy to sell this to a nice person for £100. Even £50 would be okay for somebody who really wanted it.
But this asshat firstly got impatient because I didn't answer his initial query instantly, then he asked if I could fit brakes (which I state in my ad I am willing to do), so I said yes, I would fit brakes if preferred.
Then he writes again asking if I'll take £200 *because it doesn't have brakes*.
He must weigh about 4 tonnes in limb-rocks, and I have no doubt at all he'd be back at my place within two weeks, red faced in a full throttle roid rage, complaining the bike is faulty and trying to sell me back my broken bike for the same money he bought it off me for in perfect condition.
Jog on, Inbredible Hulk.
- Aside from all that I'm not even sure I want to sell it. Getting back into riding 20" again and although I'm not ready to hit the ramps, I am enjoying riding itHorp
- I just *know* that the moment I do sell it, I'll be wanting to build up another one for me.Horp
- You should reply with "Do you even manual, bro?".palimpsest
- :DHorp
- The thing is, with or without brakes, I am asking for £250 at the moment. If somebody comes to see it and wants to haggle, fine...Horp
- I have PLENTY of wiggle room on price. But I really hate these people who try to haggle the price down at the initial enquiry stage, before they've even viewed.Horp
- Somebody could turn up, look at it, say "I like it, will you take £150? and I'd likely say "yes" and they'd have a bike and feel like they got a bargain.Horp
- I get it, it's also the haggling right after asking for breaks.palimpsest
- *brakespalimpsest
- Horp0
teeheehee.
Somebody is selling this for £850 as an original vintage Skyway...
Those aren't even Skyway wheels, ffs
Frame and Forks is one of these...
A generic Taiwanese mild steel frame and forks pumped out as a base for bike companies to quickly add a BMX to their range once the original BMX craze got into full swing. These were badged up as a wide variety of BMXs but most commonly known as a "Speed" brand BMX for those companies who couldn't even be bothered to add their own decals.
- Horp1
I'm really enjoying riding Bet Lynch (my Parts bin banger BMX). So much so that I've pulled the ads to sell it for now. I had a couple of interested buyers but I just felt that I wasn't ready to sell.
Made some improvements as well. I suddenly realised that the way I'd made it up meant that the stem and bars on my 24" are actually far better suited to Bet Lynch, and the stem on bet Lynch was actually the stem I took off my 24", and the Cult bars on Bet Lynch were a better size for my cruiser too.
So now Bet Lynch has Animal four piece high riser bars and a Salt pro stem, and my 24" has its own stem back.
Then, somebody was selling a pair of Stolen (brand) wheels complete with toobs and Tioga G6 whitewall tires in 2.30 diameter for £10.
Stolen Wheels are not expensive but they are decent enough for thrashing and I prefer to thrash cheap wheels not expensive ones. So I went to see them.
They were filthy, there were missing spokes and they were all grimmed up.
the wheels run on sealed bearings but the driver still runs on looseballs.
Paid a tenner, borught them home. Replaced the broken/missing spokes, cleaned out the cassette bore and burnished the races. Added new bearings and fresh grease and then cleaned everything up.
Absolutely perfect brand new wheels. The roll so smooth and quick.
So Bet Lynch got a few upgrades and I;ve been back to the skate park for some mild park riding.
Not that anybody should or does give a shit about any of this, but the BMX thread is now my personal journal thread so *shrugs*
- Horp0
The now rare (but not desirably rare, just rare because it is old and people don't look after stuff) where was I, oh yes, the old undesirably rare Cult frame that I loved but sold, and mated to a pair of Cult Sect forks came up on ebay today for £60. So I nabbed it. It is a LOT more than I would ever pay for a 10 year old frame and forks of no great reputation, but it may be my last chance to replace the one I sold. I took the chance and paid my money.
So now I have a "vintage" Cult frame and forks making it's way to me.
I did seriously love riding that frame. It was just perfect for me in a way that no BMX since has come close.
Being from the previous decade (deeply so) it has really long geometry. While riding it and despite loving it, I convinced myself a shorty frame was the way to go and eventually did something I will never do again... I bought a box fresh frame at a ridiculous price. A Kink Williams frame.
I sold it again about 18 months later. Didn't lose any money on it but I did feel like I'd wasted my time and hadn't enjoyed riding it. Oh and I had also bought some Oddysey Thunderbolt cranks for it and I did lose money on those because theose are expensive cranks and they went with the Kink.
I didn't like the Thunderbolts either. They felt like innovation for innovation's sake with their stupid little string of teeth that sit between the crank arms and the spindle. Plus... they did the thing they were designed not to do... creak and squeak. Refitted them a billion times and they always made an annoying noise.
That was the worst moment in my BMX life... getting so into it that I was buying really expensive stuff during lockdown and not enjoying any of it.
Anyway, where was I... Oh yeah so I've gone full circle now back to the very old fashioned Cult that I wished I'd never sold.
Decided to start costing up the parts I will need to build it. It's going to be purely for street riding. No ramps, no pump tracks, not dropping off high ledges. Just rolling, riding, and a bit of ground work.
So I'm not looking at high end stuff. Cheap but good road wheels - simple 9t cassette, fully sealed bearings, double wall rims. Cheapest medium soft 2.40 tyres. Cheap decent no frills crank. The cheapest pedals. The cheapest 4 piece bars. Cheapest grips, cheapest seat.
All budget. As budget as I can do it.
The frame and forks is OLD, a totally out of date, geriatric. Shouldn't be an expensive build. That would be pointless.
Checkout basket total: £354.00
Making my Cult Revival V2 a £416 BMX. That's without the sundries required to respray it.
I could buy a decent brand new complete for that.
BMX components are so fucking expensive.
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- 1990s mountain bikes are the next wave...