Nuclear Power
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- moIdero0
The beaches are always being closed because of waste spills, right? And surfers are territorial, they stick to certain breaks. If we can get some hair samples, and get a match to a certain beach, we'd know which break the Ex-Presidents surf.
- You buyin' this?moIdero
- Keanu wisdom! For a second I thought it was a reference to Nixon being from San Clemente which is next door to San Onofre. haha.HijoDMaite
- San Onofre, hahaHijoDMaite
- raf0
The way wind turbines make 'energy', at least in the UK is through subsidies. They farm them to collect money from the government.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth…"The total RO paid to the wind industry last year was £400 million. So each of Britain’s wind turbines earned, on average, £138,000 in subsidy last year [...] Add in the profits from selling the electricity they generate and after construction costs are cleared, you will be making nearly £300,000 per year per turbine, half of it courtesy of the Government. "
- Big Windabettertomorrow
- "Clean energies" until now, have been money swallowing alternatives to oil. I can talk to you about Spain´s experiences...OBBTKN
- experiences, but probably you know them allOBBTKN
- SteveJobs0
Hey Utah, get me two!
- VikingKingEleven0
im surprised people don't know about this
- what happened with this? I saw the episode, but it died out. Never heard an update on it.HijoDMaite
- I thought this was promising. May be "someone" shut them down.kgvs72
- People who buy boxes to make their energy use self sufficient are taken off the grid by energy co'sGucci
- And strange as it may sound, energy co's have the power to buy the box for $1.Gucci
- I heard some guy who knows his shit talk about it for what felt like forever. fascinating stuff.Gucci
- Posted this on first page...apparently you just did a prettier job of itformed
- HijoDMaite0
so the photo was too much...
As kids we called the power plant the Dolly Parton Memorial.
Oh! And South San Onofre is a nude beach! :-)@ Akrok
given that this nuclear power plant for example is ran by San Diego Gas and Electric, and Pacific Gas and Electric it is designed to feed the existing power grid in California. Yes, solar works great for the individual user (I too know the neighbor with solar panels who is feeding the electric company by running his meter backwards) but I've read that it is an issue of re-engineering 100 years of design for the entire system, or parts of it, to feed off battery power (solar) and the cost effectiveness of that.
- autoflavour0
love the comments
- oey0
it's nuclear to finish the nuclear.
- lowimpakt0
raf - just so you know.
fossil fuel subsidies far outstrip subsidies for renewables -
The IEA highlighted that in 2008 global subsidies for fossil fuels topped "$557 bn in 2008."
http://www.iea.org/files/energy_…
a nuclear power station has never been built in the UK without public subsidies.
the private sector have so far refused to take the risk.
- ali0
Nuclear energy seems stupid when there are so many safer, more cost effective, hazard free and waste free alternatives.
I can't wait to see ocean wave energy as a common source:
- renewable, zero-emission
- produces fresh water directly from seawater
- buoys are submerged on the ocean floor, no aesthetic impact
- attract marine life
- minimal structural materials required
- contains no oils, lubricants, or offshore electrical components
- ratio of electrical generation to fresh water production can be quickly varied from 100% to 0% allowing for rapid variations in power demand.
- no transmission issues as 60% of the world live within 60km of a coast
- water is approx 800 times denser than air, the energy density of waves vastly exceeds that of wind
- Waves are predictable days in advance making it easy to match supply and demand
- no destroying the environment by mining for fuel sourceAnd if there is an Earthquake the worst that would probably happen is that some pipes may get damaged, not explosions and radiation pollution of the whole earth!
Why do people support Nuclear Power and uranium mining when they can support companies like this one:
- hans_glib0
----- get rid of stupid chinese (button blocking) thread bump -----
- akrokdesign0
most of the houses/apartments could be running on solar instead. (in california)
- georgesIII0
I heard IF you get the right dose of radiation at the right time,
it gives you super human powers
- omg0
^
makes me think if spiderman got his superpowers from a bite of a spider. what would happen if spiderman bit someone else. wouldn't they contract his superpowers as well?
- Hombre_Lobo_20
as far as I know Nuclear power when done right (which isn't difficult) is a great, very effIcient source of energy.
But one overlooked VERY lucrative source is tidal power energy.
The power gained from the seas pisses all over wind farms and solar energy. Not surprising at all, think how heavy these huge masses
of water are that move constantly, the energy you get from that is immense.- saltwater is an aggressive beasthonestIy
- can I get that on a dunk? :)Hombre_Lobo_2
- Efficient yes, but too much dangerous waste which no one wants and no OFF switch! Bring on Wave Energy this is the future.ali
- Futureali
- Hombre_Lobo_20
And to continue my small rant wind farms are rubbish. For each wind turbine erected (lol) it takes two years for it to make the energy put into creating it and start producing energy - even once this is done it doesn't output a lot. Not to mention that the wind is very unreliable and unpreictable. Unlike tide strengh and tide tables which are quite accurately predictable almost a year in advance!
/rant
sorry it's off topic, ust thought I'd share some interesting stuff a learnt at a talk a while back.- But how many years does it provide energy for? How long do you think it takes a power-station to pay off it's energy debt?lukus_W
- I know what you mean, wind can't be relied on - but I think energy has to come from a variety of sources.lukus_W
- Wind power may as well provide some power - we're be stupid not to utilise all avenues.lukus_W
- What he is saying is 'it costs more to produce the turbin then it ever actually produces in energy'VikingKingEleven
- thts why there is giant subsides for wind and solar right now.VikingKingEleven
- Oil is still subsidized here in the US....formed
- Hombre_Lobo_20
Also in terms of the toxic waste a genuine consideration of disposing of the waste recently being talked about is putting the waste in a land accessed subduction zone, which in theory should send the waste down underneath the adjacent tectonic plate returning the waste to the hot firey depths of the earth!
Crazy times!