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- HijoDMaite
Stewart Brand And Erich Pica Debate Nuclear Power. (VIDEO)
Recent debate:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20…(8 minute highlights or 36 minute full debate)
I think it is an important debate, plus I live 15 minutes from this:
- akrokdesign0
most of the houses/apartments could be running on solar instead. (in california)
- CALLES0
if it makes tits grown like that i'm in. well except if they make it grow in men also =/
- Amicus0
CALLES... are you honestly saying if you had tits like that you wouldn't enjoy playing with them?
- HijoDMaite0
so the photo was too much...
As kids we called the power plant the Dolly Parton Memorial.
Oh! And South San Onofre is a nude beach! :-)@ Akrok
given that this nuclear power plant for example is ran by San Diego Gas and Electric, and Pacific Gas and Electric it is designed to feed the existing power grid in California. Yes, solar works great for the individual user (I too know the neighbor with solar panels who is feeding the electric company by running his meter backwards) but I've read that it is an issue of re-engineering 100 years of design for the entire system, or parts of it, to feed off battery power (solar) and the cost effectiveness of that.
- moIdero0
The beaches are always being closed because of waste spills, right? And surfers are territorial, they stick to certain breaks. If we can get some hair samples, and get a match to a certain beach, we'd know which break the Ex-Presidents surf.
- You buyin' this?moIdero
- Keanu wisdom! For a second I thought it was a reference to Nixon being from San Clemente which is next door to San Onofre. haha.HijoDMaite
- San Onofre, hahaHijoDMaite
- SteveJobs0
Hey Utah, get me two!
- autoflavour0
love the comments
- Hombre_Lobo_20
as far as I know Nuclear power when done right (which isn't difficult) is a great, very effIcient source of energy.
But one overlooked VERY lucrative source is tidal power energy.
The power gained from the seas pisses all over wind farms and solar energy. Not surprising at all, think how heavy these huge masses
of water are that move constantly, the energy you get from that is immense.- saltwater is an aggressive beasthonestIy
- can I get that on a dunk? :)Hombre_Lobo_2
- Efficient yes, but too much dangerous waste which no one wants and no OFF switch! Bring on Wave Energy this is the future.ali
- Futureali
- Hombre_Lobo_20
And to continue my small rant wind farms are rubbish. For each wind turbine erected (lol) it takes two years for it to make the energy put into creating it and start producing energy - even once this is done it doesn't output a lot. Not to mention that the wind is very unreliable and unpreictable. Unlike tide strengh and tide tables which are quite accurately predictable almost a year in advance!
/rant
sorry it's off topic, ust thought I'd share some interesting stuff a learnt at a talk a while back.- But how many years does it provide energy for? How long do you think it takes a power-station to pay off it's energy debt?lukus_W
- I know what you mean, wind can't be relied on - but I think energy has to come from a variety of sources.lukus_W
- Wind power may as well provide some power - we're be stupid not to utilise all avenues.lukus_W
- What he is saying is 'it costs more to produce the turbin then it ever actually produces in energy'VikingKingEleven
- thts why there is giant subsides for wind and solar right now.VikingKingEleven
- Oil is still subsidized here in the US....formed
- Hombre_Lobo_20
Also in terms of the toxic waste a genuine consideration of disposing of the waste recently being talked about is putting the waste in a land accessed subduction zone, which in theory should send the waste down underneath the adjacent tectonic plate returning the waste to the hot firey depths of the earth!
Crazy times!
- HijoDMaite0
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- lukus_W20
Nuclear? No thanks.
- abettertomorrow0
Nuclear clearly is never going to be 100% safe...and yet at the same time look at oil and the need to drill in less and less optimal circumstances, leading to the potential for environmental catastrophe (BP oil spill etc).
Unfortunately, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this stuff. Once oil production peaks, an energy crisis on a scale never seen before is on its way, and there is not going to be an easy answer.
- except for use less.lukus_W2
- Well, yes. Easier said than done.abettertomorrow
- formed0
It will be an interesting (and ongoing) debate/discussion. Everyone shut up about oil when BP f'd up, but now it is back to "drill, drill, drill".
I don't know which side to stand on. One on hand, it seems stupid and naive to put so much at risk building nukes and dangerous drilling. On the other hand, I don't want the economy to slip worse, putting many on the streets, etc. (which would happen if we can't continue to produce cheap energy).
Hopefully we can move forward as safely as possible, going slowly towards green.
This was pretty interesting: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2…
- abettertomorrow0
The news in Japan just continues to get worse. NYT now reporting:
"the nuclear fuel in all three reactors is likely to melt down, which would lead to wholesale releases of radioactive material — by far the largest accident of its kind since the Chernobyl disaster 25 years ago"
- Fucking horrible, just horrible. Poor people.HijoDMaite
- .. all four potentially. Truly awful.lukus_W2
- not poor people... poor all people on Earth!benfal99
- i don't get why the sea-water isn't cooling themlocustsloth
- Hombre_Lobo0
Talking of energy this might be a valid time to mention jacque fresco
and his...
http://www.thevenusproject.com/there are infinite sources of energy availible to us -
geothermal (probably the most lucrative)
tidal
solar
windwhy don't we harness this energy at extremely little cost, considering it's output?
Because you can't make money off electricity. You get oil, you get countries in price wars, you sell oil, you get rich.
So instead of investing in technologies for alternative power, corporations avoid it and buy out anyone who invents an effecient alternative to fuel powered engines.