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- HijoDMaite0
This fad is still around?
- Hench0
What honestly said. The fact is this 3D reality we live in is a dog eat dog world, you have to kill other living beings or you yourself will die.
It's been scientifically proven that plants are aware of their surroundings and feel pain just like animals, so really what's the difference?
Do whatever you want, get on with your own life, stfu.
- show me, reacting is different than feelingformed
- sorry Hench, but everything apart from the last sentence is bullshit.lukus_W
- Lol I'm not even going to argue with you.Hench
- maybe just link to the proof that plants feel pain like animals ...? ;)lukus_W
- HHAHAH, what bullshit. Show the proof. they may react but they have no CNS so no pain..RW
- qoob0
- Hombre_Lobo_20
A mate of mine was veggie for about 12 years. He didnt agree with the way animals are treated etc.
He was quite athletic, did lots of cycling and climbing, one of those hiking outdoorsy types.
However he then decided to eat meat. Within one month of eating mean he put on a stone of muscle and was climbing an entire grade hard (font grading).
People should eat meat its natural!
- same with sex -- but super suppressed in usa. america fuck yeah!squidbrains
- abettertomorrow0
On the other hand, lots of people don't eat meat and are just fine.
To each his/her/its own
- id agree.
its their life to do as they please. ill stick to my good meaty proteins though!Hombre_Lobo_2
- id agree.
- Hombre_Lobo_20
having said that did you know that roman gladiators were vegetarian?
- and also non atheltic-overweight which led to lots of diseasesMiguex
- indeed sir! heheHombre_Lobo_2
- Hombre_Lobo_20
What i find bizarre and kinda stupid is people who are vegetarian and dont eat meat because of animal cruelty.
Its like, thats all well and good, but you might as well not exist in that case. They should buy ethically farmed meat. By buying no meat at all their vote, in a sense, isnt being counted. But by contributing to sales of ethically farmed meats they encourage this treatment.
By buying no meat at all its like being completely neutral.
rant :/
- I agree, its similar to people who think they are a good person because they are not a bad person.Hench
- lol, yeh good point.Hombre_Lobo_2
- you mean christians?Miguex
- locks the door, breaks the key, jumps on a motorcycle and speeds away from threadMiguex
- hahah so true mig!Hombre_Lobo_2
- stoplying0
She just HAD to BLOG about it too. Stop blah blah blogging!!!
- autoflavour0
yeah really, this whole problem is that she blogged about it.
eat meat, dont eat meat, what ever.. just dont fucking make other people care about it.besides, vegans are fucking weirdos anyway.
- haha
i love how politically correct that is!Hombre_Lobo_2
- haha
- abettertomorrow0
fckn hipsters
- added_valium0
I'm a non-practicing vegan
- lukus_W0
Fundamentalism of any kind is pretty scary .. people who are fanatical about veganism / vegetarianism scare me a bit; in the same way that people who are fanatical about guns and liberty, or god do too.
The fact is, we don't _need_ to kill animals to survive - we have a the luxury of choice, and we can eat what we like and involve politics in the decision if we want to. There are thousands of ways we can live our lives - no one needs to conform.
We don't have to kill other living beings (or die). We're not living in the wild west or the jungle - most of us live in cities.
As for plants feeling pain just like animals - this sounds like complete bullshit to me .. especially when you consider that plants are made from a completely different cell type. It's a comparison which tries to show the similarity between animals and plants - when the more useful comparison is between animals and humans.
Eating meat is tied closely to masculine ideals, and I reckon a lot of people romanticise the process of killing meat and consuming it - and choose their point of view purely for the purpose of projecting a macho image. It's understandable, but a bit naive maybe.
Re. the article. The author might need to eat animal derived products to function - but I don't see why the alternative - of becoming a fully fledged carnivore - was taken when there was an intermediate step; e.g. becoming a ovo-lacto vegetarian, and seeing how that goes.
- auxillary0
In honour of this thread I will eat a fat, juicy steak tonight! Hurray!
- Peter0
Yay steak!
"Your body kills living beings by the thousands every day. If you didn't, you'd die. Bacteria, viruses, disease... are all 'living beings'. By the very nature of our existense we must kill other life forms to survive."
True, but now we're on the very macrobiotic of levels. Seems like a bit of a schtickler argument to me: a valid point but a point not really related to us eating all these yummy carcasses. Let's get back to those. Or otherwise we might end up agreeing to something bizarre and uncivilized, like man must kill every other man in order to survive. We've the ability to choose to coexist, but not always the mind to.
The answer, I believe, is as always in moderation. We're raising animals with brains so that they can feed animals which we will later feed upon. It's almost ridiculous where we are.
While I could never give up fish, meat or poultry, but I'd sure invite more initiative to eating less of it.Alas when the McRib returns...
- Hench0
lol.. 'We don't have to kill other living beings'
Your body kills living beings by the thousands every day. If you didn't, you'd die. Bacteria, viruses, disease... are all 'living beings'. By the very nature of our existense we must kill other life forms to survive. As I said before and you wrongly disagreed... this existence is undeniably a 'dog eat dog world'
Look at the animal kingdom, most animals and insects for that matter kills other animals (and insects) to survive.
It's the way the world works.
I think a vegetarian diet can be great and you can certainly live a healthy and strong life on it now we have our nice soft easy lives with access to almost any food on the planet.
Almost every native tribe on the planet eats meat (or at least fish), by the way.
- I have never seen a dog eat another dog. Your argument is invalid.abettertomorrow
- lolHench
- a coyote is a dog. and it eats dogs.
BOOM!Hombre_Lobo_2 - Then they should call a "coyote eats dog world"abettertomorrow
- They should call a "coyote eats dog world" what?Hench
- They should call a coyote eats dog world and ask it how it feels on this subject.abettertomorrow
- ah, got it.Hench
- Hench0
I knew I'd get sucked into this debate eventually. But meh, do what you like - believe what you like. I'm going back to watch Liar Liar