Amazon Pulls Book
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- scarabin0
didn't they pull 1984 also?
i remember people were upset because they straight up deleted files off of people's kindles
- Dodecahedron0
how did it get on there to begin with? You can't put hate propaganda or 'how to' books on torture on amazon can you?
- ukit0
That was a little different, I think it had to do with a licensing issue (they sold a book from a company that they later found out didn't have the rights to sell it). If they actually pulled 1984 for content reasons that would be pretty insane.
- jetSkii0
Christopher Finan, the president of the American Booksellers Association for Free Expression, argued that the book should not have been banned on the grounds that it was neither child pornography nor legally obscene, due to the fact that it does not have pictures.
- Dodecahedron0
I guess its true you can't judge a book by its cover. ..or wait maybe you can and this proves it.
- jetSkii0
Having reached the top 100 list on Amazon's website. Those who have downloaded the e-book may face legalities due to Section 160 of The Criminal Justice Act of 1988. This is a Serious Arrestable Offence carrying a maximum sentence of 5 years imprisonment.
- Dodecahedron0
why? it was not a banned illegal book? Amazon should be the one being charged.
- SteveJobs0
@jetSkii
regarding this book, i don't care really care either way, as i was speaking generally. however, i see your point, but i think you're sensationalizing this whole thing by comparing it to what the nazi's did. and suggesting the book may have prevented child molestation... perhaps, but could the opposite be argued? (that's rhetorical, btw, as i don't know much about the book... ironically).@pr2
educate me then? perhaps it's just my opinion, but no single man's ideals represent that of the whole, and no man's judgement should dictate the fate of the whole. but perhaps you know better than i.
- babaganush0
I have just had a son (6 days old). Of course paedophillia abhors me and I guess I'm quite a 'bloke' in that it's fists 'n fury first with stuff like this. I was going to say that this book acknowledges the fact that no matter how much we hate it, these people will still offend (even if within their own heads, with their own eyes) and that if one person is dissuaded from living out their fantasy by other means (a book), then as a parent, I feel relieved.
But of course the other argument is that sad as it may be (and not necessarily from the offender's free will), you're a fuck up and need removed from the gene pool for the greater good as is the law of the jungle.
I think the balance lies between the two. Read a book if you must, progress to the alternative with my child and I will do all I can to remove you from the gene pool anyway
- congrats on your son :)moIdero
- Im a father as well, 2 year old daughter.moIdero
- Thanks Moldero, much appreciated :)babaganush
- jetSkii0
@ steve jobs
You're right, a book like this, and any other book could have a positive or negative impact. But without the book, you would be shooting in the dark, looking for these individuals. Forcing the book underground is just going to make it that much harder to catch and change these individuals.
I don't think I'm sensationalizing the idea of book burning because in truth, that's what it is in digital form. in fact on a larger scale as it threatens the policies of future digital distribution for millions of people when an angry mob's beliefs, fears, and emotions override the freedom of one man's right to speak his mind, they can override it for everyone else.
Luckily, unlike the Nazi book burnings, we can flip a switch without any loss of data.
- monkeyshine0
I'm mixed. If I were Jeff Bezos and this were my business, I'd probably make the same call. My business, my rules. It's easy to stand on this side of the fence and poo poo someone for censorship but if this were your business, what would you do?
- monkeyshine0
I'm mixed. If I were Jeff Bezos and this were my business, I'd probably make the same call. My business, my rules. It's easy to stand on this side of the fence and poo poo someone for censorship but if this were your business, what would you do?
- SteveJobs0
@jetSkii
to clarify, i only meant that in the sense that this is not a government that is doing this, but a corporation. if it were the former, i wouldn't have said a thing. but since this is a profit seeking entity, i think it has little to do with censorship and more to do with appeasing the paying customer. business is business. again, just my opinion..
- ukit0
Here is what Amazon said yesterday:
"Amazon believes it is censorship not to sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable," the online retailer said in an e-mailed statement.
"Amazon does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts, however, we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions."
Then today they pulled the book. lol. Obviously they underestimated peoples' anger over this.
- ukit0
I still say unless they clarify their rules about what is banned and what is not, they are in for even more bad press. I'm sure there are books that are just as bad or worse than this one that just haven't been picked up on yet.
- jetSkii0
It's good to know that if you need to get a book title off Amazon's booklist, you need the media lynch mob.
- jetSkii0
I wonder if its possible to still get a copy of the book somehow. You'd think sooner or later the book is bound to leak online. I hate even discussing the subject unless I was able to read some of the book. Every single boycotter I've talked to knows nothing about the book. It's like this imaginary book, that no one has read, yet they hate it.
- 25 out of 25 people who hates the book, hasn't even seen or read it.jetSkii
- babaganush0
Btw I love the fact that the author's name embodies everything that a paediphile is god for in my book
- Phil Gaves