Will China really take over?
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- tangoxray30
As long as the chinese made version is the cheaper option, we'll all keep buying it.
e.g.
- what is that documentary?
i dont have HBO.. is it new?e-pill - only as long as product + duties are lower than heredoesnotexist
- Its about a year old i think. I saw it a few weeks ago. Shows how a once thriving NY garment industry no longer exists due to cheap overseas labour.tangoxray3
- exists due to cheap overseas labour.tangoxray3
- what is that documentary?
- ephix0
ukit and jsk, where exactly in china are you from/half from?
- vitamins0
de're takin our jobz!
- JSK0
"But there seems to be a lot of cut-throat business people out there ready to fuck all the independent creatives in the west."
Isn't that same in any business anywhere?
- clearThoughts0
Yeah, thanks for telling the whole story e-pill.
Something similar happened to me.
I think somebody should start a website to put all this companies on public shame...
what I find most surprising is that they think it is OK.But be aware that this is something that will be happen MORE and MORE in the next couple of years...
Ultimately what they want is to build up the creative industries and leave the West out.
No offence to Chinese people in general, I know you cannot generalize when you talk about a whole nation.But there seems to be a lot of cut-throat business people out there ready to fuck all the independent creatives in the west.
- i have a very strong relationship w/ that company, even though the nyc office was closed.e-pill
- i still freelance for them from time to time.e-pill
- it wasnt shameful in my eyes.e-pill
- come on cleaththoughts, advertising in general is about taking advantage of your own companies staff.ephix
- i can't think of many industries where staff are expected to work after hours including weekends for free, on a regular basis.ephix
- basis.ephix
- financeJSK
- at this company we never had to work extra hours, or use our own time for anything..e-pill
- they took rather great care of all our needs. something i have yet to see from any local comp.e-pill
- finance is one of the only ones. i said not many. and really, the difference in compensation between finance and advertising staff is huge.ephix
- advertising staff is huge.ephix
- west = asskld
- 'west' = 'ass'kld
- bumdrizzle0
this thread is now about e-pill.
- Hombre_Lobo0
Interesting stuff e-pill. Unfortunate, but interesting. Scary times :(
- e-pill0
i was working for a Taiwanese Luggage/ Travel accessories manufacturer. they have 1 Billion dollars in global sales, and are pushing for 1.5 Billion by the end of this year.
i freelanced for this company on and off thru the last decade, but it was in 2008 that they decided to open a NYC design office.
everyone that was hired were all senior level designers with over 10 years experience, plus equal sales and production..
they had me goto asia for close to 3 months, and during that time i had seen a document with everyone's name from the NYC office on it, that would be let go, once they completed their stay in Asia.
My name was on that list. I realized that they were just trying to learn how we in America design or formulate our concepts as they had a design team in Taipei with over 45 designers.
I had worked directly managing their team as well as the production factories in main-land China.
1 month after my return to NYC, the office was closed as they had learned a lot from me and 5 other seniors.
this type of practice is common from China developers, as they are maximizing their capabilities in design and making strong sale-able products.
i got a very nice severance package, but initially we were all working very hard to make their dreams a reality only to get shafted in the end.
very poor business considering their sales figures.
meh.. i should be going to China b4 the end of the year.. this time for a larger corporation.. it will become my 32 trip overseas..
thankfully this is not a Taiwanese corporation looking only to steal ones ideas and talents.
- LOL lets see the exact same thing happen with your new companyPIZZA
- THIS is exactly what I am talking about. Thanks for explaining it so well.clearThoughts
- the exact same thing wont happen at this company, since they outsourced me directly.e-pill
- 23kon0
World War III will be between China (and friends) and the US (and friends).
That's something I keep meaning to go into a bookies and put money on.
- SO TRUE.TheeOtherJuan
- not true. the eu is trading with both. very succesfull... by the waysandpipe
- yeah but US will get pissed when China becomes more powerful than it23kon
- then Americas "One World" concept is fuct so theyl throw their toys out the pram23kon
- clearThoughts0
Yeah, right. Great solution.
- Projectile0
What the fuck, brah?!!!
AMERICA THE GREATEST CUNTRY IN THE WOLD WILL FUCK THEM UP!!! THEY ALL GONNA DIE! FAGGOT MORANS!!
...or Americans will just eat them, more likey.
- ceiling_cat0
Rise of the red dragon
- ukit0
I am Chinese so perhaps I can offer some insight here. The answer is yes, you should be worried. Just look around you at the sad mess Western culture evolved into. I can't wait to get on with the business of firing you lazy cunts while replicating your work.
- clearThoughts0
Not saying anything against them.
Just thinking how the Chinese world domination will affect the rest of the world.
America's world domination for example, only really helped the US. So if you live in the US is fine, but if you are outside of the US it doesn't really benefit you.
- unless you are a minnow like Canada or Australia who really benefit from having the US as a big brother.Amicus
- mydo0
worlds most popular ecommerce site.
http://www.taobao.com/
join the fun.
- ukit0
- mydo0
And... if they got rid of you for cheap labour it doesn't say much about the service you were offering.
- an example is for example fashion campaigns that are replicas from say for example Gucci ones... probably shot for £5K thoughclearThoughts
- mydo0
I moved to China from the UK 5 years ago to learn more about this country.
China's world domination will be different to England's and America's. so don't worry, they won't close your local mcdonalds. You'll still be able to buy a starbucks, it's just you'll have the option of a green tea latte too.
- lnu0
Only the rich and the hipsters will survive.