Will China really take over?
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- georgesIII0
well, if I could chose a superpower,
I'll go with invisibility or xray vision.on a serious note,
why not give china a chance,
I don't care if they become the world's superpower as long as they don't go around the world stealing/rapping/pillaging the remaining ressources.- I hope they don't start rapping eitherukit
- M.C. China and the Sweatshop GangETM
- ukit and etm. LOL!!!akrokdesign
- So you haven't seen what China has been doing in Africa then?TheBlueOne
- TBO we have had 500 years * of western domination, look where it led us,georgesIII
- ETM0
Ultimately, globalization is reducing the ability for the global superpowers like in the past and China is simply filling the vacuum the US and other major players are creating during something of a balancing process.
- mydo0
In answer to the very first question. my considered opinion is that china will continue to grow and influence, but it's influence will never reach our daily lives like the UK and US did. There are times is hard to tell i'm even in Shanghai. New China is International, English speaking and coffee drinking. Don't worry clearThoughts, you are quite safe from change.
- mydo0
^ "roughly 13 to 17% of Americans living below the poverty line "
- Josev0
This is interesting, from here: http://www.globalissues.org/arti…
"Accounting for the increased population between 1981 and 2005, the poverty rate has, however, fallen by about 25%.
While this at least sounds encouraging, it masks regional variations, and perhaps most glaringly the impact of China:
Between 1981 and 2005:
- China’s poverty rate fell from 85% to 15.9%, or by over 600 million people
- China accounts for nearly all the world’s reduction in poverty
- Excluding China, poverty fell only by around 10%"
- jetSkii0
It's amazing that the only Asian country to side with the Nazis are considered cool today.
- I heard Hermann Göring was a massive hello kitty fan.mydo
- Hiroshima, NagasakiTheBlueOne
- mydo0
On the subject of business ethics, it's worth noting while we were all babies, all the cheap plastic shit had "made in japan" on it. My uncle tells me stories of working with the japanese in the 60's and saying how they stole your ideas, had no respect for copyright etc.etc.... Now look how fucking cool they are! http://www.qbn.com/topics/618655…
- Yeah, economists point to that when discussing China's power. We thought Japan was going to buy/take over the whole country in the 80's. It didnt happen.Josev
- in the 80's. It didnt happen.Josev
- Although I've also read that Japan may be a good example for where our economy is headed.Josev
- It's like going back in time going to japan. really odd.mydo
- Population size is pretty differentukit
- We had / have military bases in Japan. In China, not so much.TheBlueOne
- jetSkii0
Hmmmm... then i wonder if it could be due to the massive amounts of people they have over there in China. I haven't been there, but I'd work for $1/ hour if rent was less than $100/mo. Which I'd have to be, else how can anyone survive over there?
- JSK0
I wonder what Tiger Woods thinks of all this.
Does it keep him awake at night?
- Josev0
I don't disagree that we've exploited people in the past, and in our present day (Latin Americans).
- That was more in response to the comment about China's policies. I don't think their success is built on those policies.Josev
- policies. I think it was built on exploitation. And, yeah, the US has that in it's past, so do we give it a free pass? Im against exploiting undocumented workers, too.Josev
- policies. I think it was built on exploitation. And, yeah, the US has that in it's past, so do we exploiting undocumented workers, too.Josev
- UGH, ignore the third box. I meant to say I'm against exploiting undocumented workers in our country, too.Josev
- jetSkii0
@ Josev - America has had over 300 years of exploiting black slaves in their country. How in the world did China catch up so quickly?
- Josev0
I still feel like their success is due largely to their ability to exploit the working poor in their country. Maybe I'm wrong, but where will they be without that cheap labor? The poor, from the few articles I've read about it this year, are starting to push back.
- true. though is it the chinese exploiting the poor, or us?mydo
- ukit0
What does China's success say about the effectiveness of state capitalism or socialist capitalism vs free market capitalism?
You can say this for the Chinese - their government is actually able to carry out policies on a large scale that are the logical steps forward for their country. When was the last time you saw that in America?
- squidbrains0
Read "Poorly Made in China" if you've got a chance.
- Read "What does China Think" if you have the chancemydo
- http://www.amazon.co…mydo
- e-pill0
i just got off the phone with my co-worker who is in GZ {guangzhou}
is saying none of the 6 factories we have chosen are willing to tackle 1 of my designs, saying it is too complicated for them..but i wonder.. will they just say that to take my design and produce it under a different brand or label or not even market it outside of Mainland China itself??
scary times to be Batesoled when you feed them the work..
i miss my own sample room..
control is key.
- TheBlueOne0
..and there's been no mention of the incredible massive corruption that underlies the entire economic system there. I tried to source some fabric there a few years back for my old business. It was a fucking nightmare dealing with pay this guy, pay this guy, fuck that.. ended up doing business in Brazil. No less corrupt, but they don't play the inscrutable, holier than thou card like they do in China while they rip you off...
- Beeswax0
they are cheap until they get rich.
- ETM0
China has problems in that they have no true middle class yet and they are at the whim of the western world to buy their stuff, so they have little self sufficiency. The other side of that sword, however, is that a middle class will mean workers will want more, and demand more from employers, driving up costs of production with the long term potential of making them less favorable for manufacturing. That will perpetuate the cycle and opening up an opportunity for yet another developing country or region to join the sweat shop regime.
That is one thing the west still has, in theory, is the ability to both manufacture and consume said goods . If we didn't all want 3 TVs for cheap and disposable products we replace every year, we might still be manufacturing a lot more here.
- I guess this also relates to drgz post above as well.ETM