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- albums0
reading http://puredata.info/ now, cool stuff. I had heard of Max for Live, but as I had written earlier, we're currently working with a borrowed laptop and copy of Ableton 7 though making stuff like this would be fun...
this comment from them pretty much sums up what's happening... "normally these device send cc as any midi device, its just fader and knob. You can set the number of control points distributed along the fader between 2 and 16. Every time the fader's cursor passes over one of these control points, a corresponding note is triggered."
i like that notion of controlling tracks/samples with the knob fader as opposed to an individual button.
I also love this use of the Launchpad controller
obviously custom mapped
- meffid0
Trendy way to waste a small fortune.
- DoktorDavid0
Geebus - that's a lot of moola... how about you dedicate 30 minutes a day for a week to the software, learning as much as you can before you plunk down the dough...
- albums0
ApeRobot,
Please clarify... "Combined with MPD or such,MPK25 as cheap feel regarding pads and keys weight." Are you saying the launchpad will have a cheap feel compared to the MPK25 or that the MPK25 has a chap feel? What is the MPD you mention?
I've read the Novation 25 SL MKII is more robust than the Akai MPK25 and also smaller but does not bode well for keeping costs down. I'm becoming keen on the idea of the APC40 and Novation 25 but I'm adding $200+ to a budget everyone says I should keep small. Now I'm thinking of getting the Novation 25 or MPK25 first then opting for the APC40 at a later date like next month or something. Between those two, no real need for the Behringer knobs I guess.
- its_only_me0
Yeah its a lot of money.
Its actually not that tough to learn and theres a decent community for it too.
- acescence0
I love Ableton, it's superior for live performance (hence the name!), but i still prefer Logic for production.
- karlo0
as I know NOTHING about this I thought it would be good to learn about sound in general or am I being to deep?
I saw this and became VERY inspired - obviously Ill never be able to do that but hey...
Check it:
- what they never talk about in these cut/copy/paste examples is the months fo workDoktorDavid
- *of work it took to know what the tools could do, let alone the background knowledgeDoktorDavid
- of all the samples used... that's years in most cases... don't be fooled, manDoktorDavid
- prophet0
- <----- Agreed. Spend the money on gear instead.DRIFTMONKEY
- <ukit
- < this 'n' that.akrok
- This. I learned ableton on my own.
inhaler97 - have one and love it. take a look at william marshall's apc40 templateglitchsbrew
- joshtrix0
Ableton is incredibly easy to pick up, that's the main reason I use it so much. If it was something like pro tools, the course might help, but the joy of Ableton is it's not convoluted. As prophet said, spend your money on the suite.
- karlo0
People...
WTF am I supposed to do with THAT bad boy!?!?!
- Ianbolton0
Shit. There was a 10-week Ableton course here in Leeds for £40, and I had it in my head I was busy. Hope they do it again.
- ApeRobot0
Combining the APC with another controller with pads or keys, like an MPD or an MPK.
I'm just saying that the MPK pads,keys,knobs are cheap. (personal feeling)Like for exemple, i'm using.
-M-audio Keyboard (the cheapest)
Laptop with ableton
-APC 40 (i use it mainly for the live. Otherwise, i use it for arrangement and effects tweaking. It is just an extra, production wise)
-MPC2000xl (put samples in it to play them, or use the pads midi synced with ableton)Basicly you dont need much, like, a computer and a cheap keyboard will make it.
- cool, thanks for your input, looking more and more at the Novation 25 SL MKII nowalbums
- albums0
Reading more about the Launchapd I came across this
it's a pretty cool little trackit uses an emulater called nonome from http://post.monome.org/comments.…
and sampling software called mlrv from http://parallelogram.cc/mlrv/
- benfal990
>>> REASON <<<
- karlo0
its all far to cpmplex... I know nothing... Maybe I just download the 30 trial which I can buy for 99 euro if I like it...
- autoflavour0
seriously, ableton isnt that hard to learn.. you would be MUCH better off spending $29 for a month subscription to Lynda.com, go thru their tutorials on ableton, which covers the majority of the functions you will need as a beginner, and take it from there.
that said, ableton is crazy intuitive and there are like a bazillion tutorials on youtube for pretty much every aspect to it.
if you want to blow 900 pounds, go BUY the software.
its amazing software, but any "course" that goes for 9 weeks will be 2 weeks at most of teaching and 7 weeks of padding it out to make you feel like you arent getting raped.
also the in software tutorial and example sessions are really well structured, even for n00bs..
dont waste your money.
- Thelonious_Funk0
buy a midi controller, get software, easy.
open and start learning, ableton is very intuiative...
dont be afraid to learn something new.
check out tutorials by tom cosm, hes got great ableton tips and chops.hardware vs software is irrelephant.... skills and imagination is where its at... theres people making gooood music even using garage band... pick any software and go for it.
- easy to make a 4/4 beat using the included loops, totally.Miguex
- irrelephant... hahahadasohr
- to quote dane cook, the majority of people only use 5$ worth of photoshop (in this case ableton), maybe the guy wants to REALLY learn itMiguex
- to REALLY learn how to use it you know?Miguex
- yes, I should also add, get a hardware interface to plug in mics and other gear...Thelonious_Funk
- music is made with more than just electronic bits... get a decent mic, record things liveThelonious_Funk