Level of quality in work

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  • nosaj0

    This happens with everything... Music, Carpentry, Graphic Design, Animation... Doesn't mean the cream won't rise to the top.

    • the cream is certainly going off in mainstream music.Amicus
  • inteliboy0

    Framing and composition can be taught in schools. It's a skill but not talent, nor quality. What is hard to find is emotion and an original feeling or thought. I really just don't get that with most digital/amateur dslr owners with their 1.4 lens and a copy of photoshop.

    Plus DSLR video, is just that, video. Still the same jittery shutter speed video that just looks bad. But people seem to be loving it, and loving these overly processed HDR junk you see everywhere. So I dunno...

    A wake up call was a few years back when I scored a 16mm camera for a day, sourced a reel of stock, loaded it up and lugged it out to the forest super early in the morning. Got some footage that I really liked, telecined, and edited it together. Was a good release and was fun. But then hitting vimeo, I mean, so many people were shooting similar shit with absolute ease, at random times, with their dslrs, no thought... it all just meant nothing.

  • twokids0

    There are two ways to handle the constant change in technology - move forward and embrace it or get left behind.

    Anyone who can click and creates something and sells it IS A PRO. Whether or not they comply to your standards, which come from a different time. They create a new standard by what they do.

    You have to decide how to adapt to technology, not bitch about it. How does the change in technology affect what you thought was 'quality' today. Maybe that standard doesnt apply anymore?

    Adapt or die.

  • jaylarson0

    takes a brain to see the difference between a snapshot and a photograph

  • differenz0

    All great answers. I'm glad you think that way. I guess the thing that pisses me off the most is the fact that people just don't see these details, yet.. they want to be in this business or consider themselves professionals. Everyone who can click thinks he's a pro.

    • You mean like people who can hack php thinking they are developers? The difference, as always is in the results.comicsans
    • thinking they are *as good as* ...comicsans
  • harlequino0

    Upgrading and democratizing tools is not a new idea. Innovators will always be innovators, and the cream will always rise to the top.

  • Hombre_Lobo0

    I totally see your point and agree whole heatedly,
    but those people who say 'oh yeh it looks great' only because the image is sharp, but lacks any type of thoughts on framing composition light etc are those who will produce 2nd rate images, so no i dont think it is being downgraded.

    Knowing your trade is invaluable, particularly the old school methods which you point out.

    You should thank yourself lucky that you even notice these things, it shows you think more critically than others and as a result im sure you produce better work.

  • bigtrick0

    short answer: there are more photographers, and therefore there are more bad photographers as well as more good photographers. there have always been no-talent cunts able to get people to take them seriously - and now because there are more photographers overall, it then follows that there are more photographers that are also no-talent cunts.

  • uan0

    I would say yes, BUT it doesn't matter, as long as there is still professional work around, you will see the difference.

    I think it's great that the equipment is accessible now to a wide range of people. Finally talent will make the difference and not the equipment.

    Now on another note, the lack of talent (in- and outside the industry) is very disturbing.

  • dMullins0

    Is this a reference to Nicholaus Goossen?

  • differenz

    I'm sure you have seen this number of times, someone got a new camera (let's say Canon 5D Mark II) and thinks he can do best ever music videos and short films. Sadly, you see his work and you know that it's shit. But others that have no clue of what the quality level is, will say it's brilliant just because it's filmed with that sort of camera, giving the whole video "film look". But in reality, it's shit, no composition, framing all wrong and so on. I don't have any particular examples here but as I said.. I'm sure you have seen this already.

    The same thing goes for the blooming photography "business", everyone seems to be a great photographer now days, or at least, they think they are great photographers. When you look at their work, you just see that it's not good but others that have no clue, once again.. praise the work as being the most brilliant ever. I was recently in a company of few individuals which are all amateur photographers going to the same course (lectures about taking photographs).. and this one guy made some photos for some singer and was showing them to us on his iPhone. I didn't like them and I have even explained why.. because it was shot to look very professionally and on a high budget, it lacked lighting and overall, it lacked some story behind it. I have explained these certain details just to make him understand why it's mediocre and how he can improve the further work but instead.. they all said I was right but that it doesn't matter, it's good as it is. But it's not!

    Is the quality of work being downgraded with this new technology and instant photographers? I remember I used to take photos with my ancient Nikon FM2, fighting against weather and lighting all the time but it was worth it because I made some nice photos which I haven't seen for days until they god developed. Some times I used to close myself in the dark room to develop B/W photos, that was also struggle because it's not that easy to make a good, quality photograph.

    .. now, all of a sudden everyone can make photographs, think they are great .. but to anyone who ever had a chance to read anything about photography those pictures look just mediocre.

    So without any frustration, my question is this, is the quality of such work being degraded with these instant photographers?