Israel attacks aid ship!
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- inv0
Didnt take many days before people stopped caring about this story =) It was on page 3 now =)
- inv0
I hope I am misunderstanding this, but you think I hate jews just because I want to know the background for antisemitism and its relation to whats happening today?
I think it should be a valid question to ask why some people seem to be getting in trouble more often than others...
- maybe cause other people are forcing their ways on themtoe_knee
- Do you think that is the case for the Israelis?inv
- It's both religion and territory. Israel believes that whole region belongs to them, and they've always hated Islam.Continuity
- lowimpakt0
i don't think you hate jews.
I think you can't draw parallels between what the modern Israeli Government do and why the Nazis hated the Jews.
European far right scum do this. Have a look here to get an idea of what I mean - http://www.stormfront.org/forum/…
- It's not about what Israeli is _doing_ to the Palestinians that can be compared to Nazism, it's the net results and perceptions.Continuity
- ukit0
I think there's a pretty big difference between Europe where it seems like there's at least an honest discussion about Israel and the States where you can't even really talk about it.
- georgesIII0
the subject isn't even that,
why can't you stay on track for once,the problem is that the IDF attacked an unharmed ship in international water!
you can spin all you want, blame the individuals, the boats, captain, the water flow....
but don't forget that they were sailing to give food and urgent first aid kits to the most empoverished and segregated place on this planet,now you can be hypocrital and look at the finger while most of us point at the moon, its your fuckn choice, but don't try with your fake outrage.
for fucks sakes, this is about right and wrong, stop this bullshit!
- +10000000Continuity
- so why dont you join the struggle?Isnt this like 10th struggle that you are screaming about?JSK
- why don't you stay quiet for once, you don't know me nor my life so its better you stay quiet.georgesIII
- You say the same thing every time. Maybe sometime for enlightenment?JSK
- I don't share my life story on the net, because I don't need some fuckn bullshit net creds, go pose somewhere else.georgesIII
- So maybe you should stop saying 'you don't know me, you don't know what I have been through' yah?JSK
- no maybe I don't need to tell you shit, I don't have a blog/twitter/delicio... etc, why should I open myself to you?georgesIII
- So much anger yet no resolution. Oh well.JSK
- lol, you still haven't contradicted anything I said, you're just trying a tired trolling technic to divert attention, I rest my case.
georgesIII - I am not trying to contradict you. Just tired of you getting angry at something but doing nothing. Except how everyone is wrong.JSK
- lowimpakt0
twitter apparently "censoring" #flotilla
#FreedomFlotilla
guardian live blog http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/…
- can we continue the debate on antisemitism later ?lowimpakt
- Sure. I'm having a gander at Chicks wearing socks anyway :DContinuity
- lollowimpakt
- lowimpakt0
attacking ships in international waters is an act of piracy
- Dude. Chicks wearing socks. Where are your priorities, man?! ;)Continuity
- byname0
blast from the past, so who is real landowner and who is sociopath/psycho squatter:
http://www.juancole.com/2010/03/…
- dan53820
Only read pieces of this long ranting +broadcast.... so this all may have been covered...
1. Aid ships/convoys/whatever have been sent around the middle east while also carrying weapons (trojan horse style from all sides of this fight)
2. Israel boarded and they started getting beat by metal looking poles (don't really know what they are but if someone was swinging at me and I had a gun, well I think I know how that one would end<---this is why I don't own guns)
3. The whole area of the "middle east" has essentially been waring for over 1000 years (I never hear anyone crying for other lost cultures land like the Assyrians <---just one example of many).
4. Media will always be biast and not give the whole story (if it bleads it leads)So I ask you whats the point of picking sides? Just let them all finish the damn fight and stay out of it.
- What do the Assyrians have to do with this? Leave them alone - LEAVE THEM ALONE - Return their landSoulFly
- only mentioned Assyrians cause they lost a whole damn kingdom, nothing you can do tis what it is.dan5382
- The point of picking sides is to be on the side of good. Letting them finish the fight would be turning a blind eye to israeli genocide.madmanGerald
- and the up to 450 Hamas and Hesbollah rockets a month don't count?Amicus
- It all counts its just been going on too long to claim one is right and one is wrong. They've both been bastards to one another.dan5382
- Cactus0
- god so fake... like they would say those things over the radio so the IDF will use them against them...georgesIII
- TheBlueOne0
Total fuckup. And once again good ole' Israel fucks America in the Middle East.In this action Israel has done the following: put America and NATO in a very difficult place. It's emboldened the Islamists in Turkey and weakened the generals in Ankara. It has also forced Turkey closer to Syria. Not to mention continue to inflame Muslim hatred of what they view as Israel proxy - the US. That's certainly going to help our efforts in Afghanistan & Iraq. (last sentence written with sarcasm)
I'm an American. Not Israeli. Somehow, some of my tax dollars go to support this fucktwit of a little country called Israel that has zero national interest for the country I love - USA. We always bend over backwards to help them, and they alway sdecide to fuck us in the ass.
Yet somehow, here in America, we can't criticize Israel without being called antisemtic or jew hater or whatever...How much oil do we import from Israel?
Meanwhile, Turkey just said "Fuck you, we're not playing."
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/turke…
They're threatening to use the Turkish Navy to escort a new flotilla to Gaza. What's Israel gonna do then?
Turkey is a NATO nation, they can invoke the charter and ask for assistance from other NATO nations when they are attacked by non-NATO nations (*cough Israel cough*)...so is NATO about to break if this continues?
How do you like them apples?
Fucking geniuses in Israel, I tell you. I mean that with respect, because they can get big, dumb countries like the US to do their bidding.
As an American I feel like the big guy who is watching his dumbshit little friend start a fight with the biker gang on the otherside of the bar, thinking we're going to back him up. Fucking tired of it.
- you can be anti-israel without being anti-semitic. It's a race card they love to pull. means nothing._niko
- i agree with the blue one.bigtrickagain
- inv0
So you think that what seems to be a total lack of respect for other peoples lifes or religion is just something that evolved the last 50 years? Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with the fact that these people think that they are nothing else than Gods people.
- That's only part of the equation. The Jewish Question is far too large - like most things of a religious or political nature - to be filtered down to one concept.Continuity
- ... filtered down to one concept.Continuity
- Right you are.inv
- digdre0
looks like those activists attacked first.
- But in international waterJSK
- yeah poor idf always getting attacked,
aaaawwwwwgeorgesIII
- lowimpakt0
Are you saying the jewish people warranted, deserved or should have expected persecution by the nazis because they think they are God's people?
- lowimpakt0
Turkey has withdrawn its ambassador to Israel. They were Israel's closest Muslim ally.
This act has lead to even further isolation.
Currently no statement of the the UK government.
- georgesIII0
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- byname0
using military helicopters on International waters of course ;)
- monkeyshine0
Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm not defending Israel's response but where the hell is the accountability? If the accounts of this story in the NYTimes are to be believed, there were a few jackasses who saw an opportunity to attack Israeli soldiers. Sorry but they are just as responsible for the deaths on that boat. No one on the other boats were killed...why is that?