Timelessness...
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- bored2death0
ummm... most of these logos have changed over time. so what's so timeless about them?
design is always about the time in which it was made. hate to break it to you, but all design is ephemeral.
- no.Dodecahedron
- i disagree with that.hellojeehae
- yespressplay
- bored2death0
- I never realized this before but damn, Pepsi was biting hard off of Coke's style there in the early 1900's.dMullins
- I think the 1973 Pepsi is one of their best designs...then they go and ruin it.WrappedInBooks
- eieio0
these are more stylistic changes. style isn't design. Corporate logos are terrible examples of good design anyway.
- bored2death0
Style isn't design? Well then please enlighten us as to what the true fundamental-ness of design is...
- scarabin0
everything posted so far looks old as fuck
not so timeless
- Provide examples of timeless please scarabin... Rather than simply proving how "current" you are...ideaist
- i'm not so sure anything is timelessscarabin
- which is more my point, not that i'm... whatever you saidscarabin
- The only constant perhaps is change?!ideaist
- i referred to you as "current" based on your "...old as fuck" comment... you look ahead npt behind...ideaist
- npt = not... ; )ideaist
- eieio0
well in your IBM example there's 4 totally different styles at first then 1947 they hit on the front and center IBM look and it stays the same until now with a few minor stylistic changes in the type and with the lines etc. They are reflective of time and place no doubt but the IBM all capitals like that has remained for good design.
- is it really good design or are we all just used to seeing it? i honestly never cared for it..e-pill
- thats why logos are bad examples of design, they are largely stylistic and contextual in natureeieio
- A logo is a symbol...ideaist
- Or an attempt at creating a symbol... recognizable to all and unfamiliar to few...ideaist
- dasmeteor0
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Raymond Loewy
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- bored2death0
So capital letters will always be timeless?
- bored2death0
So any logo set in capital letters should be timeless.
I see the 1911 version is all caps. How come that doesn't work?
I don't consider modernism 'timeless' by any stretch of the imagination.
- We're still discussing style and I'm not reading what the timeless elements of design are.bored2death
- you are a half wit clearly. you should be considering absolute totality of the design itself. proportions, the fact that its a acromnym etc.eieio
- ... acronym. etceieio
- bored2death0
The original poster defined timeless as something that never ages.
I'm assuming that means every time I look at it, it should seem new and fresh.
I honestly can not think of one thing that fits that. Things fall in and out of fashion. It's the nature of what we do.
- So is timeless an idealized concept of the past? Where as everything today is temporary/fasionable...ideaist
- eieio0
death, timeless is a pretty relative thing there. Obviously the IBM logo would mean dick all to a caveman, but to someone in greece they might appreciate the meaning and intention, even someone in a thousand years might possibly consider how direct and clear it is considering the nature of the company. Design is not inventing the wheel.
- scarabin0
perhaps it's concepts that are timeless, not execution?
but even those age...
interesting topic
- dMullins0
- And let's be honest, there's nothing to these BUT design. So to say timeless != design = stupid.dMullins
- Awesome; I am designing a flag for my new business with my old lady... They are so iconic/lovely...ideaist
- I'm simply trying to create a dialogue dMullins... Not point out smart/stupid...ideaist
- I'm with you, it just saddens me that this is a good thread getting beat up for no reason.dMullins