Designer Drugs
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- tFour0
Has anyone here ever tried 2CB and/or benzo fury? It's becoming more popular around these parts and I'm curious about their up- and downsides.
- i'm a big fan of the 2C's. some of the most powerful spiritual/art experiences i've ever hadscarabin
- here's info on benzo fury, i had to look it up http://en.wikipedia.…scarabin
- Benzo fury is sold at smarshops around here, sounds like a solid party drug with a more mellow comedown. Dunno about 2CB though, might be just a bit much of a trip, and rather try it at home sometime.tFour
- though, might be just a bit much of a trip, and rather try it at home sometime.tFour
- it's pretty intense stuff. like acid but more visuals and more involving than acid, whose experience can be passive at times. good at home or a festivalscarabin
- times. it's great for festivals 'cause it's funny how fucked up you get. also great for sex at home, in that way it's like e but you don't get pill dick and you can orgasmscarabin
- you can orgasm and don't get pill dickscarabin
- i wouldn't do it at a museum or similar like i would acidscarabin
- 2CB is great. My first time was during the oil derick explosion at burning man. INTENSE!capn_ron
- Miguex0
- http://www.economist…scarabin
- as far as "cannabis harm" is concerned, it's very likely just hospitalizations from people eating too much edibles and frreaking out or somethingscarabin
- freaking out or somethingscarabin
- "harm" from pot is probably factored as being black or hispanic and being caught with it in americakota
- i wonder if shrooms are so low cause people dont try them.74LEO
- LSD. same thingas shrooms it isnt as popular.74LEO
- scarabin0
I am writing to you about those who would deceive you
but the Oil you received from him remains within you
and you really need no teaching from anyone;
simply remain in him,
for his Oil teaches you about everything
and is true
and is no lie.
Remain in him
as his Oil has taught you to do.– 1 St. John 1,26
- scarabin0
- holy..the fuck..mikotondria3
- ah mah zing!Beeswax
- wowmoldero
- scarabin0
liquid LSD, MDMA, 2C-B, 2C-E, 2C-I...
gonna be an interesting summeranybody try any of the 2Cs?
- 2C-B was the most balanced experience I've had. Had my first acid trip a year later and I'd say I prefered 2C-B.orrinward2
- Euphoria of MDMA without the uncontrollable rush. Visuals were intense and I could manipulate them/switch to reality consciously. It was great.orrinward2
- reality consciously. It was great.orrinward2
- yeah, it's currently my favorite. also traded some acid for 4-aco-dmt, which i think is an acid salt of psilocin... basically mushroom pillsscarabin
- mushroom pillsscarabin
- 2ct7, yessskota
- sine0
- panacea0
Khat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kha…
Not really designer, grows wild like any other plant, easy to get seeds in the USA as well.
Growing wild in Yemen.- want.. where?omg
- found a place http://www.everyherb…omg
- indeed bro, I have a few growing in my yard. You think your average cop knows that from a shrub?panacea
- tasty as well. Make tea and chew it. kinda of like an amphetamine buzz.panacea
- wished i lived in warm growing environmentomg
- where'd you get your plants?scarabin
- scarabin0
- i remember the middle school health teacher taking out a suitcase looking thing with all this in it. looked identical.dirtydesign
- yeah, that's what this isscarabin
- Man, that eye dropper syringe is so ghetto.WrappedInBooks
- set0
I was thinking of calling my new design firm Ecstasy and Cocaine Studio
- those don't go along really well, one kills the effects of the otherernexbcn
- I found it impossible to do any work on any of that stuff. You get distracted the minute you sit in front of your computer.Beeswax
- Last thing you want to do is sit in front of a computer.
Unless to write. Garbage.mikotondria3
- moldero0
"Recent research has analysed the link between the harmful effects of drugs relative to their current classification by law with some startling conclusions. Perhaps most startling of all is that alcohol, solvents and tobacco (all unclassified drugs) are rated more dangerous than ecstasy, 4-MTA and LSD (all class A drugs). If the current ABC system is retained, alcohol would be rated a class A drug and tobacco class B"
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/i…thats it im starting e again.
- the US surgeon general has been quoted as saying using ecstasy is safer than riding a horsescarabin
- have you SEEN the way he rides a horse ?mikotondria3
- Riding a horse on ecstasy may be more dangerous than both though. A lot of fun though!orrinward
- Oh what a lovely horse. I never realised how spiritual horses could be. I can hear it thinking about me. Fuck yeh.. ahh......mikotondria3
- Let's stop riding and talk about stuff. I love talking about stuff.mikotondria3
- hahascarabin
- orrinward0
But as with anything that depletes something in your body and reduces function, with repeat use/exposure without allowing for recovery in the process, there are permanent effects such as susceptibility to damage there.
When I was 13 and took ecstasy one pill (got in with an older crowd...) would get me really high. That dose would still be able to get me high when I was 17 or 18, and I believe this is because I only did it very occasionally, so my body recovered and balanced it's serotonin well. Around 18/19 I went through a spell of a few months doing large amounts (2-3g) every other day or so, and I'd say that although I function perfectly now in my day-to-day, and I have no psychological issues, it has had a permanent effect on my brain. I'll need about 0.3g to feel a change of state.
Surely this threshold difference indicates that either my brain has changed the way it processes serotonin or that the neurons are less receptive, at least when put under unusual circumstances.
I can't go up against actual scientists on the matter but from personal experience, I think that my ecstasy use has had a permanent effect on the way my brain functions, even though it's only noticeable in unusual (getting fucked) situations.
I don't think ecstasy causes brain damage in the sense of losing brain function, but in a looser sense I believe it, with non-moderate use, leaves permanent changes.
I'm a big advocate for ecstasy and think it's really helped form my perspective of myself and the friendships I hold, but I really can't say that when abused it doesn't leave permanent effects, most likely neurocognitive deficit of serotonin receptors.
- I really should come up with an anonymous alias of sorts...orrinward
- your body is different in so many ways due to age, particularly your enzyme raios and metabolism, liver, stomach, etcmikotondria3
- State of mind is a huge factor. Whole reason that placebos work.cotton
- moldero0
reminds me of a funny story when I used to live in LA, me and my buddy used to snort our e, so one time were kickin it at this small rave in down town LA, my buddy who i called puff daddy because of his crazy collection of cars (long side story short, he put a fuckin body kit on his fuckin viper, dude was loaded) anyways,
says to me, "hey man, the e's still in our nose, you can taste it" as hes rubbing his nostril and licking it. to make this story short, 5 minutes later were both diggin deep into our noses and licking our fingers, I realize what the fuck were doing then look up to notice were in the entrance to this rave and everyone walking in is walking past and tripping off of the big mafia looking Chinese dude and me who are picking their noses and eating their boogers.- haha. wouldn't molly burn like shit?scarabin
- did, but not that bad, + peak hits you in like 5 minutesmoldero
- one time though snorted some crap e thought my head was going to explode, was a horrible hourmoldero
- felt like mia wallacemoldero
- lately i've just been dumping a bump on the back of my hand and just licking it off. fuck caps and all that shitscarabin
- +1 scarabin
brains - I call that 'fun dip'brains
- i haven't dropped since '00moldero
- i'm actually phasing it out. the hangovers don't seem as worth it to me for something so illusory. it's mostly just psychedelics for me nowscarabin
- me nowscarabin
- scarabin0
- I dont know what is going on right here but I dont like itVikingKingEleven
- is that wall-e in the center?omg
- it's like free drugs!sandbag
- maquito0
Designer Drugs?
Are you serious?
I will not read 5 pages of silly drug descriptions.- I've done them all, and they all suck. Best drug: NO DRUGS.maquito
- People who need meds generally shouldn't take street drugs. The More You Know.placeholder
- there's not way in hell that you have tried "all designer drugs" sorry. the spectrum of that also encompass over the counter and prescription drugs all over the planetMiguex
- and prescription drugs, a variety that extends across the entire planet.Miguex
- Jimbo820
Meow Meow?
- "Was there anything better than Ecstasy"kingsteven
- Meow meow = special K?moIdero
- its not special k - its plant food - was legal in UK but too many deaths associated so banned
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- detritus0
DMT's, beyond a proper Nitrous Binge, one of the purest, most efficient headfucks you'll ever encounter... in a good way :)
In processed form, the trip only last a couple of tens of minutes, and takes you far beyond the realms offered by acid and shrooms.
A small hit in the park, in the summer sun, is a beautiful thing. A larger hit, wrapped up in bed and eyes shut damn tight is even better. Endless vistas of rainbow-hue colours and patterns combine with cascades of photo-pure imagery - for me, anyway. Most people I know haven't experienced the photocascade as I did (imagine a stream of images, two every second, each from god knows where, but somewhere in the past, somewhere real and definable, somewhere unremembered). That aside - by God, the depth of image complexity... did I mention the colours? :)
Or, there's unprocessed. We're thinking of starting off an Ayuhuasca Evening here (a friend went to one last weekend and was charged £75 for the opportunity (!!) - I've access to a fuckload of the stuff.. ). Not quite so strong a trip, but a much longer experience. Hours rather than minutes. Personally I prefer it in its illegal, processed form - trip is much quicker and much more intense.
My only problem with DMT is that I'm one of only three people I know who has any - which makes denying people who find out quite a pain - especially in summer time. Shit's hard to find, yo.
- erm.. S.W.I.M.! S.W.I.M.!detritus
- Shit, I've just woken up and been a bit too candid here.detritus
- this is the sort of reply i was looking for. thanks!scarabin
- i get a similar image cascade with acid while playing with strobes, see random images seemingly from lives not minescarabin
- I had this image cascade while robotripping. (we were bored and out of drugs) Was surreal. Like literally watching a movieepigraph