NY/CT Intern (paid)
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- ismith
I am looking (NYC, hudson valley, Connecticut). I am studying design and typography at school, and just finished a summer stint doing letterpress. I'm open to anything in the art/architecture/design/advert fields.
Days: Tues Thurs Fri Sat Sun
Hours: any, max. 10hr/day, 50/wkIf you have an opening or know anyone who does (should probably mention I'm not 18 yet), PLEASE respond here or email me. I'll try and get back ASAP with some portfolio materials (you can also check my site on my profile here) and resume... I'm looking for paid internships/positions only.
- mrbrandnew0
Oh it's so good to see you post your list of demands above. Anything else a design studio can offer you? Maybe a corner office? A driver?
Get out and beat the pavement dude, and if you turn down a good internship because it isn't paid, you're an idiot. Design and architecture studios don't want to hear that shit, especially from somebody your age.
- <cuntceiling_cat
- Demands? Just the areas I'm familiar with and my availability. I apologize for wanting to feed myself.ismith
- yes rude cuntspraycan
- Don't be such a dick!Didsomething
- lukus_W0
If all internships were unpaid - only people with rich parents would get to become designers.
- mrbrandnew0
.... or people who work their asses off
- ukit0
Don't be a dick.
He said 10hr/ day 50 hr/ week. Is there some internship out there that's gonna officially demand that you work 12 hours a day? LOL
- ismith0
For everyone's reference: I love unpaid internships and all, but come December I'm out of a home so I need to be able to afford some living space, food, and a few other things. Maybe internship isn't the best way to put it, but I wouldn't see myself as experienced enough to be applying for any 'position'.
- ismith0
I've been told I have an eye for perspective, and I know my way around a drafting table if that helps any. Rapidographs are like extra fingers.
- jerseyred0
question - on your website you have a lsd project - http://faktion.net/?q=node/11 did you actually make that poster while you were tripping and presented it to your teacher and class as "the shit I made when I was tripping?"
- alicetheblue0
sorry i wish you the best ... but your portfolio... where is it again?...
will not cut it in the real "paying" world.- See above; I'm 17, and have no formal experience thus my looking for another internship.ismith
- studderine0
good luck to your young sir. if nothing comes up, apply for unemployment (assuming you had a job once before and didn't quit). going to 4-year uni soon?
- ignore the your.studderine
- My apps are due in January, will know I think by mid May or June where I'll be headed.ismith
- Nostradamus0
mrbrandnew, you're being a cunt. Anyone who takes an unpaid internship is an idiot or some rich brat.
Too many designers have this stupid idea that you have to be treated like shit in order to "pay your dues." It's something I hear so often. "You got to pay your dues, this is a competitive field"
In truth, you fuckers are mainly hacks that couldn't barely cut it starting out, just like most kids. You suffered, and therefore you think other people should suffer, perhaps even more than you did. You ape the persona of the starving artist when in fact you're just a bunch of cunts.
Unpaid internships are just as bad as spec work. There is nothing noble or admirable about it. And it is not "paying your dues"
so fuck off.
- Nostradamus0
And besides looking at this from the perspective of a masochistic design fag who wants to inflict suffering on newbies as a way to erect a false barrier to entry, take a look at paid vs. unpaid from the perspective of the employer. You're going to get what you give. Eventually an unpaid intern is going to be resentful or desperate (unless you're a rich brat), and you don't want someone who is either of those things on your hands. You might come in and find an iMac has disappeared or wonder who keeps leaking how mismanaged and disfunctional your agency is to QBN.
- Etype0
Dear Nostradamus you have no idea how the industry works. Taking an unpaid internship does not mean you are a rich brat. Some people actually have to work hard for what they want in life. If that means putting in extra hours to do something you love, upaid, so be it. If you think that this is wrong, then you deserve exactly what you get out of it. Any hot shot intern that thinks he should be paid for what he is worth has a lot to learn about the industry.
and to whoever posted this thread... there are millions of people like you, with that said, you will most likely be working 10 more hours than you suggested. Given your age and lack of college credits, it will also be unpaid. If you do end up taking a paid internship, it wont be worth it, because it will be at some shit ass studio that nobody has ever heard of and all you will be doing is holding the art directors cock.
- monNom0
Unpaid interns steal office supplies. It's a known fact.
- dyspl0
advice from someone who did paid internship for 2years :
You should consider having a part time job, non design related with standard hours, then go out, see intersting yhings and work on side project for band, galleries, small shops etc (keeping in mind you already earn money and that your goal would be to make a good book).Honestly spending time in a office being "the intern", giving coffee, doing the jobs no one want to do (as convert those 500stock photos into gifs etc...) for a shitty salary with nothing to put in your book is not that great.
- ismith0
Look, I have nothing against unpaid internships. Really, I had a lot of fun over the summer at one. It still has lots of benefits, the most important to me being the people you meet. Sadly, that's not enough for me right now. I'm graduating with an A.S. in graphic design at the end of this year, but come December I will be without a home. I'd like to find a job while I finish up school that could give me any more insight into the business before I head off to 4-year.
I haven't made any demands. I will do absolutely any work that pays enough for food and some kind of living space, but only within the hours stated because every other minute I'll be spending at school or hustling for a better break. You want me to hold your cock? Fine– but while my other hand is free, you might as well let me use it to organize files, distract clients, make the grid in illustrator, fix the newbie's godawful "experimental" leading, trace some microscopic gif into a vector file, scan your shit, and lastly MAKE YOUR LOGO BIGGER.
Now back to the original post, do any of you know of where I can gladly be of service in an industry like this with my own MacBook Pro, hipster messenger bag, and douchy hair?
- Nostradamus0
"If that means putting in extra hours to do something you love, upaid, so be it."
You're a fucking idiot. Don't even try to equate "extra hours" to free slave labor.
Some of you hipster yuppies are so twisted and out of touch. I swear, turn the clock back 150 years and you'd all be arguing why Black slaves shouldn't be freed, they should be happy that they've got a roof over their head and the valuable experience cotton-picking imbues them with.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/…
And just to clarify, there is a huge difference between doing design for the love of it, doing projects without being compensated because you love it.......and contributing to a capitalistic entity's profit statements because you're too spineless to ask for minimum wage.
Etype, I just went to your deviantArt gallery. ← And with that short sentence alone, we've settled who knows more about this industry.
- thats cool cause I dont have deviantArt doucheEtype
- http://esptype.devia…ismith
- Do you see an S in my name?
Etype - or a P?Etype
- your email sir, betrays you.lukus_W
- http://www.flickr.co…Etype
- suck on that
Etype - Yes, so it's the same name and email. You have a flickr too, congratulations! Now can we move along?ismith
- ya great you guys found an account that I haven't logged into for 2 years awesomeEtype
- HAHAHAdMullins
- identity0
As someone who has done both paid AND non-paid internships, I can say that it is just ONE variable in the over-all decision. Ive taken paid internships - got to work on some stuff - but learned nothing as I was more-or-less a production guy for the AD. Now, I DID get to work on some stuff that eventually was over-hauled and printed - but its stuff that was outdated in a year's time LET ALONE have it in my folio now. The unpaid internship I took was a bit more strategic and I did a bit of research. I groveled at the feet of a Pretty well-known industry guy for months (inflating his ego and letting him know I wanted him to be the Mr. Miagi to my Danielle-son)... this eventually worked out and I got the internship. The LESSONS that i learned while working for him have been INVALUABLE and while my work product now has outgrown what i did then (as a portfolio SHOULD), I can say under him and picking up these little hidden "gems" as he called them, influenced the entire process in which I think about design.
This is not to say that every unpaid internship will lead to a Disneyesque' movie story - but if you do your research, take the time to woo someone, it could pay off in spades for you... You're 17, so it IS important to put a roof over your head - but I think that now, while youre impressionable and dont have many bad-habits, it would be good to try to get in with someone who can TEACH you how to do things the right way.
- dyspl0
Unpaid internship (as well as low paid internship) is what makes experienced&expensive people getting fired....
- Rand0
this thread has become unexpectedly entertaining
- identity0
^ Can you explain that? I think that COULD be true in the case of junior designers being replaced - but I dont see how someone with some solid experience and getting paid some good money could be replaced by an intern - unless the intern was amazing - and the experienced designer was resting on his laurels...