The Salary Question
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- Not_Ghey0
#21 what did I win?
- divin80
I don't know if this is a particularly good approach, but if the salary range was not previously stated I used to say this:
Interviewer: "What are your salary expectations for this position?"
Me: "I would rather not answer that question at this moment in case my answer may adversely effect your selection process. Perhaps at a later interview. However, may I know what you have budgeted for this position?"
- braaad0
Don't bring it up on the 1st interview, unless it feels right. Find out at the 2nd or 3rd interview. Most companies don't post salary range unless they're a nonprofit or a huge mega-corp, i.e. "Graphics Artist Wanted, Job #33246." I steer clear of those personally...
Remember to counter-offer if you feel it's appropriate! Even if not for $$$, maybe extra PTOs, or a Cinema display, or whatevs.
- Gucci0
Ahh. This was a good thread. I keep coming back to it to hear some of the advice.
- Gucci0
Ahh. This was a good thread. I come back to it to hear the advice.
Though... it hasn't really worked out for me just yet.
- jfletcher0
I always want the offer first... then I'll state the money I'd like, or they can offer me money. Regardless, I don't ask until I have the offer. Then I know they want me, so I can leverage that a bit more.
- whereRI0
take the higher ground
" well we both have a lot to think about, lets talk about that at our next meeting"
shows you are keen "next meeting", confident "next meeting"- they ARE gonna call you back and arent in it for the money (utter bullturd)anyweigh, shorrie ife had too mush wishkie
- fyoucher10
"Your range doesn't happen to be 190k plus benefits does it???"
- rson0
They should know were you are at before your interview. Why waste their / your time ;)
- twokids0
There are only two parts to interviewing:
1) Do anything to get them to offer you a job, anything. Act like you love the place, have always wanted to work there, will work like a dog, etc. Lie Lie Lie... However, you DO NOT talk money. Defer the topic politely by saying money is not important to talk of right now.
2) If they offer you the job (ALWAYS your goal - all else is irrelevant) then they have said they want you and you can discuss money. Now you have leverage. But until they offer you the job, discussions of money are a waste of time. If you say too high a number they just delete you. Too low they may delete you from lack of respect. they have to want you first. But if they want to hire you and then you want more than what they are offering, you have a chance to get more.
one extra thing. when you go for a job in a really big corporation, you take what they give you. they will have a range that they will not change for your demands if you take the job you make it up in benefits and security over time. they will have a range they will not change.
- arthur0
You make good points twokids, but I have to say that money is the second thing I talk about, the basic job/project is first, but not in too much detail. I've gotten deep into discussing a job only to discover that the client won't pay anything even close to what I want and won't be flexible, so it was all a waste of everyone's time.
Got a job offer this morning. Client briefly outlined the job and asked for my fee before we go any further. If we can't get on the same page with money it's just not gonna work out.
But maybe this is all just a big difference between salaried and freelance.
- MHDC0
ask them to write down a number on a piece of paper... have them fold it and slide it slowly across the table...
- dMullins0
On a first interview, I normally say something like, "I'd rather get to know your company better, and you get to know me better before we start trying to fuck each other in the ass."
- kelpie0
its been statistically proven that if you go in asking for 33% higher than your current salary, you are more likely to come out with a 17% pay rise than if you ask for anything under 12% more. These figures are adjustable downward if you already fall within the 70-90K bracket and upward if you already exceed 90K
- vitamins0
I would hate to waste my time going to a interview if they are looking to pay peanuts. Post your range on your job postings.
- MSTRPLN0
I once went to an interview at a company where they were willing to offer me $9.25 an hour for my design services, and if I was good, a 50 cent increase in the next year.
- bulletfactory0
The AIGA Salary Survey may be of some help to see what salaries ranges are in a similar-level designer in a similar-size company in a given region. These numbers of course aren't guarantees, but may be helpful in finding an appropriate range for the position you're looking for.
You could always say something like... "According to the last AIGA survey of creative's salaries, (insert position name here) commonly make (insert salary range here) for a company of this size in your region. Due to my qualifications and experience, I would hope to make (insert millions here).
Of course, there are lots of factors such as project and client base, benefits, flexible working conditions etc. But doing some salary research on similar co. in the area will be helpful.