flash sites in google
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- Aa77
I am working on a site that is 100% flash based and I want it to show up in google searches. I added a bunch of key words to the meta tags, as well as creating a html page with black on black text with all the key words and links.
So far I still haven't had much luck...and the site doesn't show up until page 4 or 5 on google, while flick'r pages and other sites that link to that site come up right on top...my client really wants his site to come up on the first page, and I don't know what to do to help him....
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
aa77
- mikotondria30
Duplicate all the content with a proper heirarchy, h1, h2 etc, and compliant code, then just use javascript to hide it all and show the flash content onload..
- WhiteFace0
the black on black text thing won't work, google is wise to these shenanigans.
- co20
- monospaced0
I believe you need to start driving traffic to the site to get a higher ranking.
- co20
This link is more helpful: http://googlewebmastercentral.bl…
- Aa770
thanks everyone for your help so far....I was also told that if you have the site linked from other sites it also increases chances for the site to show up higher in google....so I tried puttung up a simple html page with the key words and uploaded it to the servers of other sites I have worked on....can anyone confirm if this is worthwhile and would work?
- stop! you're making it worse. you're gonna get sandboxed if you're not already.paraselene
- it WONT work.
links would need to be from a site WITH kudos. not just a shit keyword html page23kon - ok...thanks...didn't know the term sandboxed...sounds bad...i will remove themAa77
- 23kon0
put "Britney Spears Nude, Christina Aguilera Sex Tape, Free Porn ...." etc into your meta data and into the black on black text.
that'll drive traffic to your site and up your rankings.
i'm surprised no one has ever thought of that before
or have they?- lol...you know that might actually work, but I don't think my client would appreciate itAa77
- 23kon0
Mr Aa77
You definitely have to go do some reading about what makes for good search engine results.It's more than just keywords and meta tags.
It's a combination of the meta tags and the RELEVANT content on your site as well as how well the information on the site is structured i.e h1/h2/p etc like mentioned above.
It also depends on who is linking TO your site - and also based on the relevant information tied into doing so. And if you have a big corporate or popular site or university site linking to your site then thatl give you extra kudos too.Theres no exact science that will DEFINITELY get you to that #1 position. It's trial and error as well as knowing your stuff. It's also an ongoing process to keep yourself up the top.
Big companies will battle for the top position and will invest a LOT of money making sure they stay at the top.Really funny when clients say "get me to the top of google"
- 23kon0
Mr Aa77
You are doing things the wrong way and will get the site blacklisted.
People have tried ways to cheat google and search engines in the past too - it will only end in tears.The ONLY way to get up top is a well designed and built site with relevant content!!!
i.e GOOD PRACTICES - NOT CHEATING PRACTICES
no one ever won from cheating
did your mum never tell you that?
- maximillion_0
if ranking through content was in the brief then full flash was the wrong technology choice
- anxiousarms0
something that they are doing for SEO here where i'm freelancing is to put the XML data that's being imported into flash directly on the webpage it the flash sits on. i believe they hide it in a div or something (i know nothing of html/css) - then the XML data is crawl-able via search engines.
that way, every bit of content in the website is search-able through the flash site.
- could maybe hide it off the page n google might not know about it being "off"23kon
- yea, that's why they put it ON the page and just hide it there. it works.anxiousarms
- g knows about off-page contentmaximillion_
- what about off-world-colonies?23kon
- Aa770
thanks all for the help and fail reminders....
I am removing all the pages that I added to other servers.the site I am doing is for a small local artist, so it's not as if he is a big corporation or is competing with big dogs for the top google spot...he just wants his page to come up at the top when you search "his name" + "pottery"
do you think I may have already been sandboxed? Is there a way to be un-sandboxed? Can i write an apollogy to Google and the entire web community? It's not as if I was trying to sell ring-tones or penis enlargement pills...
thanks all
- youll achieve ranking on his name with a quality domain name containing his namemaximillion_
- unless he's called john smith etcmaximillion_
- mikotondria30
I just feel sorry for the people genuinely trying to sell penis-enlargement pills, and always being labelled spammers.
- craighooper0
Depends on what industry the site is part of, etc, etc. Lots of variables. Also depends on what keywords they want to be "found" via...
Here are a few tips for all-Flash sites and Google...
01. <title> tag is very important. Craft an intelligent title that is keyword-rich. Don't be a douche, though and cram it w/ spammy-type-stuff...
02. Use the real SWFObject embedding. This way you will have alternate SEO-friendly content below the SWF in the holder <div>...
03. You can meta tag, but I don't know how relevant this is...
04. Get the domain linked-up everywhere you can...
05. Submit the url to Google for indexing (you'd be surprised at how many don't do this)...
06. Smoke some heroin...