Mumbai Terrorist Attacks
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- moth0
It was more TheBlueOne's analysis that astounded my poor horse...
- moth0
I'd been teaching it not to give too much weight to what it saw on television...
- janne760
i knew of previous attacks in asia and india. i simply forgot there were more than 100 fatalities back then...
you know, media does work on your mind and subconscious.. :/
- pascii0
all we can do is read&watch, vote and think about how we spend our money. that's sadly all we can do against it. we're consumers now, not men.
- ORr, join the SAS, get tooled up and hunt the Tora-Bora mountains for terrorists, the choice is yours!65Neue
- You are what you believe pascii. Why limit your thinking to their borders?TheBlueOne
- you mean i should go out shooting people, no m'n - i stay here act local think globalpascii
- ribit0
I'm not a 'consumer'
(even if I buy lots of stuff)
- deepjanne76
- what?
timfraserbrown - Think local, kill globalTheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
moth, please don't misunderstand me..I am not trying in any way to belittle previous attacks or loss of life (all of which is precious), nor am I insinuatng that this is "more real" merely because of the fact that it seems like Westerners were some of the targets and the international media is all over it.
I was merely trying to say the scope of the attacks, it's well planned and sustained nature, the obvious means of outside support needed to mount and launch such an operation (targeting not only westerners, but indian polititicians and law enforcement, hospitals, and the small local jewish community), along with what seems like sophisticated intelligence, transportation, timing weapons and communication usage puts this on a different scale than guys with homemadebombs on trains, irrespective of loss of life that results.
The events in Mumbai yesterday are horrific and suggest a sophisticationand an escalation of ability aboveprevious levels - in that sense in mirrors the 9-11 event, with similar responses from the media and the world.
I hope that clears up my thinking.
- kelpie0
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen…
The homegrown explanation too would follow global trends in militancy. Though the hardcore of al-Qaida has unquestionably reconstituted a base and some of its commissioning and logistics capability in recent years in the tribal belt of western Pakistan, most global Islamic militancy remains a local business. In Morocco, Algeria, Iraq, Europe and across into Asia and the Far East, most militant organisations are characterised by a mass of horizontal links not vertical hierarchies or lines of command. They are fragmented and based on a chaos of personal relationships and shifting dynamic mini-structures. Bringing them all together for one operation is ambitious but clearly possible – experts talk of "swarming" – and is likely to result in the kind of varied but effective attack that we saw today. It also makes the culprits – if they survive – much harder to catch and any overarching organiser of whatever nature much harder to trace.
- zedvox0
sigh...it's still going on. though, the special forces have managed to rescue a lot of the hotel guests who had been trapped inside the hotels... let's hope it ends soon.
- NotByHand0
We are the world, we are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
so let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day
Just you and me
- 23kon0
"HOW CAN THEY ATTACK?!"
"Just because they have power, it doesn’t give them the licence to pull down people"
A quote from the now legendary Ravi Bhatia of "How Can She Slap?!" fame.
- moth0
It's a spectacle! Even the BBC has rolled out a brand animated picture gallery on the homepage that they've been saving for such an occasion; http://news.bbc.co.uk
- Horp0
This is evidence that life imitates art. According to the description Kelpie posted from the Guardian, this is flash-mobbing. Organised over the internet, and appealing to disperate groups who are unrelated but seek to subvert social order, in order to cause a convergence with results that are greater than the some of the parts.
Only difference is we in the west stand in comically 'natural' poses for 60 seconds at Victoria station, and they spray everyone with high velocity ballistics.
Flash-murder.
- ukit0
MUMBAI, India — Black-clad Indian commandos moved painstakingly, room-by-room, through two massive five star luxury hotels Thursday in a bid to free dozens of people trapped by suspected Muslim militants who attacked at least 10 targets in India's financial capital of Mumbai, killing 104 people.
The rescue efforts, which continued throughout the day, were punctuated by frequent gunshots and explosions and orange flames billowed from the Taj Mahal hotel. Hostages and several bodies trickled out of the buildings.
More than 300 were also wounded in the highly coordinated attacks Wednesday night by bands of gunmen who invaded two five star hotels, a popular restaurant, a crowded train station, a Jewish center and at least five other sites, armed with assault rifles, hand grenades and explosives.
- moth0
It's like we wasted centuries training and developing soldiers and armies.
It's easier than that.
- peddy28isgreat0
I'm sick of religion, period. There's no place for it in a modern society.
- ukit0
Wow, scary to think what could happen between India and Pakistan in light of this
- Yes. They've both been waiting for a good excuse to have a pop.moth
- u kidding? Pakistan's scared shitless... that's the last thing that quasi-failed state needs. Yikes.Khurram
- India would totally kick Pakistan's arse, and probably take control. I agree with Khuzz, they must be cacking it.Horp
- Don't know abotu taking control/kick ass, it has a strong military. But it's in no fit state for war. Yeesh.Khurram
- Yowza!Khurram
- Zoiks!Khurram
- Horp0
Its too easy to blame religion. I have no religious inclination whatsoever. I have not been schoole din any religion and my family have no background as religious people. Agnostic or athiest, take your pick.
But the problem I have in contemplating a world without religion is that without it, there is no greater force than the most powerful human being. The person at the top is answerable to nobody. There is no morality without a guiding entity who asks only for our faith and adherence to the rules.
Granted, this idea of religion has fractured so much that they all have different rules and each has the mission to dominate and defeat the other, but fuck... can you imagine a world where someone like Mugabi was the most powerful man? And he answered to nobody? Much as the Chinese govenment answer to no-one and have no concept or care for the rights of the individual?
Fuck that... let the majority keep their Gods. I'm even happy to become a preacher if it helps.
- A simple +1 doesn't really suffice as a commendation to such a great post.thebottlerocket
- Mehukit
- Khurram0
I think the problem clearly lies with the Indian man's small penis
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…
"A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men."
It's all Freudian...
- They're getting attacked by militants because they have small peeners?Horp
- Fuck me, I better get some kevlar.Horp
- no, the militants are Indian also. I predict from the lower Tamil stock, who have particularly small williesKhurram
- Are they Indian though? I'm hearing on the news they came in by boat from Pakistan.ukit
- Oh right. They have big willies. They look indian tho, with their cute monkey faces!Khurram
- Prolly Indians with networks in Pakistan.Khurram
- Khurram you are utterly fucking ridiculous man. Made me laugh though.Horp
- does that mean tamil girls have really wee fannies?kelpie
- *fisheskelpie
- it figures that pakistani men have bigger dongs, its all down to being from further northkelpie
- Exactly kelpie. It's the central Asian stock. We're especially big in girth...Khurram
- I mean Punjabis! Punjabis are big in girth *ahem*Khurram
- ukit0
On the news just now, according to Indian security services the attackers are foreigners not Indian and spoke Punjabi,
- rafalski0
Let's take The Dude's approach:
"It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh... You know what I'm trying to say..."..and put the tinfoil hat on for enhanced effect.
Now, who's going to benefit from this? Who's ensuring to keep their jobs?
Here's a quick checklist:
Terrorists?
People who lead war on terror?
People who want to tax you in order to take away your rights to protect you?
People who want public support for compulsory IDs for foreigners?
People who want greater control over internet?
Western military?
Eastern military?
Dentists?To me, looks like only terrorist are screwed (dentists quite indifferent)