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  • deathboy-3

    the god damn problem with independents is they don't do the whole tribal strength in number bit. so we get mindless jerkoffs on one side or the other who fall inline with a marketing term the followers cant even coherently explain. who have no idea of philosophy or political philosophy and simply tie it to there idea of a self. The way they perceive their identity. They absolutely could careless of the outcomes of there choices, just the intentions and social status of such things.

    • 2 party politics is far worse as current times are illustrating so clearly.fadein11
    • everything ive seen from u fade fits the mold u have a team versus philosophydeathboy
    • but tribal man largely stands on the back of its independents. it is the small population of independents who have risen mandeathboy
    • not sure what you mean but I agree everything starts with individuals.fadein11
    • whats a team versus philosophy?fadein11
    • a team as a party regardless of reason.deathboy
    • my experience is you agree with all that is liberal and disagree with all that is conservative. reason and philosophy doesnt matter. identity is kingdeathboy
    • do u think trump FAA deal is a good thing?deathboy
    • have to say I know little about that. I take on board your criticism though. and I have learnt a fair bit arguing with the brighter people on here.fadein11
    • I'm prob on the hippy end of the spectrum which is a fantasy I know. But I will attack misguided bigots at any opportunity. there is a massive brainwashingfadein11
    • u probably think its bad by first thought. but if told its good because canada does the same thing u might like it. i think very few people can really identifydeathboy
    • program going on in your nation at the moment preparing for future events.fadein11
    • a few people have fallen for it hook line and sinker which is sad to watch.fadein11
    • things these days. let alone ake decisions base don their own intellect. they have been told to lsiten to experts and not think.deathboy
    • but yes I accept your criticism - guilty as charged. my conscience is clear, however misguided I may be its always with good intentions. Not much hate forfadein11
    • others in me. Have a good day.fadein11
    • oh your not even US? must be EU im guessing?deathboy
    • and remember the path to hell is paved with good intentions. The intention is not a result. The result matters. Few politicans get that.some do and dont caredeathboy
    • u can trace most all of policy based on good intentions into policy that has hurt people. what ruined our healthcare. medicare/medicaid, wage rulesdeathboy
    • well intended but irresponsible and irrational. a trademark of the political elitedeathboy
    • and if are outside us your liberal is different. are u more labour party?deathboy
    • Isn't obediently adhering to some philosophy pretty much the same thing as being on a team?yuekit
    • theirmonospaced
    • could not?monospaced
    • ffs mono.Fax_Benson
    • oh please, i'm just playin', carry on ladies :)monospaced
    • don't worry the yawn fest is over now.fadein11
  • lowimpakt1

    This exchange between Trump and Buzz Aldrin....

    COLONEL ALDRIN: Infinity and beyond. (Laughter.)

    THE PRESIDENT: This is infinity here. It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something -- but it could be infinity, right?

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-p…

    • Thought this was a joke at first...I guess I should know better by now.yuekit
    • Well. An announcement (and likely executive order) absolutely devoid of any substance to speak of. Delivered by an intellectual cripple.Continuity
    • Trump needs to have the last word. So he'll have the last word even if it's nonsense.dorf
  • yuekit0

    Trump overrules cabinet, plots global trade war

    With the political world distracted by President Trump's media wars, one of the most consequential and contentious internal debates of his presidency unfolded during a tense meeting Monday in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, administration sources tell Axios.

    The outcome, with a potentially profound effect on U.S. economic and foreign policy, will be decided in coming days.

    With more than 20 top officials present, including Trump and Vice President Pence, the president and a small band of America First advisers made it clear they're hell-bent on imposing tariffs — potentially in the 20% range — on steel, and likely other imports.

    The penalties could eventually extend to other imports. Among those that may be considered: aluminum, semiconductors, paper, and appliances like washing machines.

    One official estimated the sentiment in the room as 22 against and 3 in favor — but since one of the three is named Donald Trump, it was case closed.

    The reason, we're told: Trump's base — which drives more and more decisions, as his popularity sinks — likes the idea, and will love the fight.

    The problem, according to top officials who argued strenuously that the move is ill-advised: The trade war wouldn't just affect China. The collateral damage would include a slew of allies, including Canada, Mexico, Japan, Germany and the United Kingdom.

    https://www.axios.com/exclusive-…

    • It's cool. If he wants to do that, he can go ahead. Everyone else will trade amongst themselves, and he can watch as Rome burns, so to speak.Continuity
  • Continuity3

    He seriously doesn't know when to simply shut the fuck up, does he?

    '"Dumb as a rock Mika": Trump back on attack against Morning Joe hosts'

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-n…

    • FFS what petulant childRamanisky2
    • So strange, the press has been so fair and respectful to him.robotron3k
    • ^ This is what I don't get about Trump followers. When you have someone who accuses women of being on their period because they asked him tough questions,yuekit
    • says the first black president is a Kenyan illegal immigrant, just to scratch the surface of a long series of lies and controversies, WTF did you expect?yuekit
    • ^ There are probably much you don't understand about the female body. Maybe try a book instead of the glory hole of Trump supporters.omg
    • Trump has demanded nor earned respect. His was a campaign of being an utter asshole and he still uses the "but, he started it" excuse like a child.monospaced
    • This whole victimization narrative is so ridiculous...as is you expected the press to just solemnly and respectively report that Obama is indeed a Kenyan andyuekit
    • climate change is made up, just because Trump said so. Is that the kind of society you want to live in, where the media just uncritically repeats whatever theyuekit
    • person in power says?yuekit
    • Obama is Kenyan. You thought he was Hawaiian this whole time?omg
    • Given he's got a Hawai'i birth certificate, I'd say it's safe to assume he was born there. Now we know for sure you're just a fucking troll.Continuity
    • It's interesting how robotron didn't respond and suddenly omg appears with his gibberish. I guess he didn't have a good answer.yuekit
    • Nah, he had to log out of the robotron account to log in as the omg one, to keep up the illusion.Continuity
    • hey omg, Obama is an American, end of story, and he was a better leader than trump will ever be, and he never once tweeted shit like this despite the hatemonospaced
    • The Kenyan/ Caucasian was born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.omg
    • the press is free to be critical of the president. when trump alleged obama wasn't a u.s. citizen, was that respectful?dorf
    • at least according to the birth certificate provided which was also said to be possibly counterfeit.omg
    • Oh so when Hillary Clinton and her supporters raises questions about Obama's citizenship that's okay, but if Trump does it years after, it's disrespectful?omg
    • "But but...whatabout..." is literally the only response you guys have to anything.yuekit
    • The point is, if you act like a idiot and spew lies and insults constantly, it should be the least surprising thing in the world that you get some criticism.yuekit
    • At least Trump was on an opposing side against Obama. What's Hillary's excuse, other than being a Democratic hypocrite that will shame the DNC for many years.omg
    • Don't waste your energy, chaps. This one's not worth it.Continuity
    • Continuity says, "safe space shields up!"omg
    • hey omg, Obama is 100% American and always has beenmonospaced
    • And while one person on hillarys staff may have mentioned Obama citizenship in passing many years ago, they did not press the issue beyond that like trump didmonospaced
    • You thinking you need to reiterate Obama being American says you are trying to deny his Kenyan and Caucasian heritage.omg
    • While trying to make him sound like a descendant of the Polynesian island that only recently became a U.S. state.omg
    • I'm just saying, he's American, despite what terminology you use. Pointing out he's of African descent is about the must idiotic thing you can do.monospaced
    • I'm not denying his heritage, and your implication that I am just makes you look like a bigger moron than before.monospaced
    • Pointing out that he is in fact a partly black man is not only insanely obvious, it's pointless and irrelevant in every fucking conceivable way. Just like you.monospaced
    • Do you think it makes you smarter, when you call others stupid?omg
    • Someone recognizing Trump's heritage as German and Scottish is okay, but Obama being born in Kapiolani, with Kenya / Kansas heritage is wrong?omg
    • First you have a problem with him being Kenyan, and now you have a problem with him being partly Kenyan?omg
    • @yuekit - fake news?omg
    • Once again. You're missing the point. Trump implied he was not American. That is what we are discussing, unless you're too stupid to realize.monospaced
    • Trump himself was eventually forced to admit the birther thing was fake, so are you calling Trump a liar omg?yuekit
    • On a timeline of events, there's a before and after Obama produced a birth certificate. BTW, It only took 3 years.omg
    • Trump also said, "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived"omg
    • he also said, "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."omg
    • He dropped that idea leaving folks with the reality that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement. Trump succeeded where Clinton failed.omg
    • Scientists still claim the certificates were false. IDK. Trump dropped the idea, but folks pick it back up to use non-issues against Trump. why?omg
    • So now you don't know if it's fake or not? But Trump said very clearly last fall that Obama was born in America.yuekit
    • How dare you disrespect our President and Emperor, Donald J. Trump. I think you should apologize.yuekit
    • Well if you agree with science, then those certificates are fake. What i'm not denying is Obama family are members of the Luo peopleomg
    • @yuekit. calm down. I'm not trying to disrespect your president AND emperor Trump. My sincerest apologies.omg
    • I'm still confused though, is the birth certificate real or was Trump wrong? I realize this is a difficult one for you hahayuekit
  • yuekit2

    Germany cuts off speech by Trump's commerce secretary

    The U.S. commerce secretary was cut off in mid-speech during a video feed to an event hosted by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s party, underscoring how German patience with attacks on the country’s trade surplus is fraying.

    Attendees at the Christian Democratic Union’s business conference in Berlin laughed and clapped when organizers faded out Wilbur Ross after about 20 minutes for overstepping his time limit.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…

    • Nice to see Trump has succeeded at making the U.S. respected around the world again after the terrible Obama years.
      BIG LEAGUE
      yuekit
    • Hahahaha ... oh, boy. The G20 summit should be pretty fucking entertaining. Watch him be basically be excluded, like Theresa May was at an EU summit.Continuity
    • Piss poor grammar, FTW!Continuity
    • The Satsuma Shitball will whine about fucking whatever so he's the centre of attention while all the adults sit down and talk trade and policy.face_melter
    • Or they'll tell him to sit out by the fucking bins where he belongs.face_melter
  • lowimpakt0

    well this is nice

    "The Multnomah County Republican Party voted this week to use far-right militia groups as private security at events."

    http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/0…

  • omg-8

    Crime does pay... even when you're driving under the influence.

    San Francisco To Pay Undocumented Immigrant $190K For Violating Sanctuary Policy



    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com…

  • antimotion2
    • Hillary Clinton looks good on the butt cheek, crotch and armpit of wrestling.omg
    • The knee pads look extra padded as if they're about to get a good workout.omg
    • oh nice, gay joke to top of your woman hatingmonospaced
    • i believe that was a wrestling joke.omg
    • rightmonospaced
    • if it makes you more happier imagining him as gay, go right ahead Mono.omg
    • right ...monospaced
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  • BusterBoy7

    This is apparently 'MODERN PRESIDENTIAL' according to the orange fuckface. Does this cunt do anything other than play golf and tweet?

    • FFS the media is NOT the enemy. Biased or not, for a leader (and his blind followers) to constantly hate on the media is very troubling.inteliboy
    • It's really not even the fact he hates on the media. It's the fact he is so easily baited...and spends excessive time reacting.BusterBoy
  • utopian0

    FBI Employees Wear 'Comey Is My Homey' Shirts To Family Day

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-e…

  • utopian4

    #TrumpFakeNews

  • utopian2

    Buzz Aldrin Looked As Baffled As We Felt During Trump's Space Talk

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/buzz-…

    • “At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say, ‘How did we do it without space?’” HAHAHAHAHAnb
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  • utopian3

    Psychiatrists say Trump is mentally ill

    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/n…

  • utopian3

    Former House intel staffer: The Trump-Russia probe is the 'successor to Watergate'

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/f…

  • utopian2
  • Ramanisky24

    I mean seriously, is this real life??



    • omfg he's a fucking embarrassment to all adults who dare call themselves leadersmonospaced
    • I'm ... speechless ...Continuity
    • *Added to Library of Congress*nb
    • Very fitting though. A fake fight for an audience of mouth breathing assholes, to bitch about "fake" news like a dumbshit brat child.monospaced
    • astonishingfadein11
    • haha. thats funnysince1979
    • "let's fuck some whores!"renderedred
  • Continuity8

    At this point, if the rest of the world are clever — and I sincerely hope they are — they would give Trump exactly the same treatment Hollywood gave him. Ignore him, don't include him or even invite him to anything. Treat him like the pathetic little man-baby he is, and make him have a fucking time-out for the rest of his miserable term, however long that may be.

    Any new international treaties, any new big deals, any new agreements, any major summits, any initiatives meant to make this world a better place ... just simply don't invite him. Exclude him. The rest of the world doesn't have time for him. Leave him behind.

    Those of you in the US ... it's only going to get worse before it gets better, I'm afraid.

    • In other words: the RotW needs to cut off the supply to the narcissist.Continuity
  • lowimpakt3

    remember when clinton was being accused of being unpresidential because he played the saxophone on television?

    good times.

    • BJs in the White House offices is still presidential tho...robotron3k
    • That wasn't accepted robo.monospaced
    • If Hillary was giving the BJ, I'm sure that would be acceptable.omg
    • was that a joke? hard to tell because it isn't funny and makes no sense.monospaced
    • Hillary giving BJs instead of Monica Lewinsky in the White House would have been more presidential apparently.omg
    • what the hell are you talking about?monospaced
    • BJs in the White House officesomg
    • why? irrelevant and meaninglessmonospaced
    • You said BJs weren't accepted, and I provided an alternative that would have.omg
    • Good work buddy. You should take the rest of the day off.scruffics
    • he's losing itmonospaced
  • lowimpakt2

    and trump accused Obama of being unpresidential for the way he ran down the stairs of Air Force 1

    "The way President Obama runs down the stairs of Air Force 1, hopping & bobbing all the way, is so inelegant and unpresidential. Do not fall!"

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTr…

    • hahafadein11
    • Who's Obama?robotron3k
    • The man you keep saying won't go away and who you blame all the worlds problems on because you're brainwashed by a dumbfuck president.monospaced