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- teh3
- oey0
Did someone hear Obama whining in the eight years he was Prez?
- nopefadein11
- Not even while he was getting cock blocked left and right by a republican majority congress.CygnusZero4
- lol
Never Before Seen Video: Obama Whines About White Privilege
https://www.youtube.…omg
- fadein112
The insanity continues...
- oey0
- pango0
So what happened in Sweden?
- Swedish things.Continuity
- nothingfadein11
- ^ Like I said ... Swedish things. :PContinuity
- Well. They actually do have some problems with the large amount of immigrants the have taken in.inv
- Not terror, but suburbs where the police are out of control basically.inv
- allegedly crime has increased with the increase of immigrants, that's allformed
- So terror on the streets?pango
- denialIRNlun6
- denial of???monospaced
- denial of what?pango
- are you seriously implying the nation of Sweden is somehow part of the Trump's claim that the US's liberal media's is the enemy by hiding terrorism?monospaced
- The Trump Circus continues...utopian
- Absolutely fuck all happened on Friday. The orange cunt is blowing again. Even his supposed Fox News story is bunkum.face_melter
- http://www.dn.se/kul…face_melter
- So, omg, IRNarse, Hayooo!, Dillweed go get fucked.face_melter
- But can you handle the truth?omg
- can you even recognize it?monospaced
- @inv - wow, shellshocked war refugees arrive and there may be some integration issues. work on those problems not send them back to hell no?fadein11
- dorfsman2
Republican Painter: It's time to impeach Trump
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/…
"We must admit we have elected a president who has immediately proved himself to be a grifter, a pathological liar, a mean-spirited bully and dangerous to American values"
- utopian0
- What is this all about?CygnusZero4
- Alec Baldwin's assistant from 30 Rock was working at the White House, and resigned because Trump.BuddhaHat
- what, Buddha?monospaced
- @mono - this dude http://www.avclub.co…BuddhaHat
- sorry, my explanation was perhaps a little too truncated to make senseBuddhaHat
- oh, so the actor who played his assistant on that show years ago was also on the President's Advisory Committee ... I had no ideamonospaced
- yep, exactly.BuddhaHat
- Haha, a brilliant summation, buddhadetritus
- fadein111
Frankie Boyle
"Here's a wee column the Guardian wouldn't print because they didn't like the Rupert Murdoch jokes:
Say what you like about Donald Trump but he's already done things people said were impossible, like made Twitter worse. Looking back, the Harambe situation is the closest working model we have for a Trump presidency. Last week he gave the sort of press conference that in a movie would bring a weary superhero out of retirement. His answers were filled with pointless digressions and absurd sentence construction, like he was desperately trying to avoid the buzzer on some unfathomable new Radio 4 panel game. And yet I wonder if Trump isn't playing to his base quite effectively: grievance is a key part of his appeal, and chaos may well just look like him butting heads with Washington insiders. His approval rating among Republicans was 84%, before he started what will no doubt be a series of rallies. Even Trump isn't stupid enough to think he's still fighting an election, so the assumption has to be that he's trying to enthuse his base to create pressure for his agenda on Republicans in Congress.
Trump's base are people who believe that the U.S is a country run by elites enabled by mainstream media propaganda. Which, awkwardly, it is. Distorted media has been around for as long as Rupert Murdoch. By the look of him that would include telling Moses the commandments would go down much better if he took the third tablet and carved a pair of tits on it. I do feel for Rupert. Not least the arthritic tadpoles that shuffle around in his scrotum, clutching their tiny hearts every time they hear Jerry’s voice, muffled by his adult nappy. Trump isn't inventing public disillusionment with the news media, just as he hasn't invented their dissatisfaction with the fruits of globalisation. He has co-opted these grievances, and followed the pattern of his whole life by bringing a lot of disparate stuff under the Trump brand.
The loyalists Trump has appointed form a kind of intellectual wing of anti-intellectualism, but really they're pouring out of the gates of Mordor so fast it's hard to keep track of them all without some kind of bestiary. Steve Bannon, who has the name and face of a relegation haunted Scottish football manager, agitates for a white supremacy that already exists. Ironic, really, that one of the main things his Administration seems to have illustrated is that only black people are good at being President. Seemingly every day we have the unveiling of some new cabinet member who has stepped screaming into our dimension after being outwitted by a Princess in a cautionary folktale. If Trump nominated his horse as a consul it would be a blessed relief.
The modern far-right have a lot in common with Jihadis in that their sexual desperation has been used to radicalise them online. The Brexit and Trump campaigns have been their training camps: the equivalent of a few weeks in some desert barracks shooting an AK-47 into an old mattress. Imagine the adrenaline surge of feeling responsible for a huge election upset. And then they have to go back to normal life. A life where during the 10 minutes they had their picture up on Tinder it was left-swiped so many times they got whiplash due to voodoo. Where they look like Joseph Merrick carried a photograph of their face in his wallet as an appetite suppressant. Where their mail-order bride heard who she was being delivered to and chewed off her toes just so she had something to block up the air holes in her crate. And so they channel their energy back into the trenches of hate that now pass for political discourse, to where they feel safe and newly empowered. There's never been a better time to be wrong.
I sometimes think that the new right have arisen without warning, then I remember that there were loads of warnings but I just kept muting and blocking them all. In all the hilarity of Trump, in the all the cluelessness of Brexit; in the sheer inchoate, transparent, head shaking, WTF of it all, it's easy to forget that we are losing. We sign petitions while they sign executive orders, pass laws, remove regulation. We share pictures of them signing away our rights as caption competitions. And yes, I realise columns like this aren't any more effective. There's obviously a limit to the need for humorous metaphor when describing a society literally being run from a country club.
The disillusioned electorate that voted for Trump are right to feel the establishment doesn't care about them, it rarely even considers them. The Democratic Party's response to Trump has had all the zip of an adulterous journalist phoning in coverage of a conference they didn't attend, and there isn't a war he could declare that they won't back. For Republicans, Trump's unpredictability is tolerated because his ideology largely overlaps their own. These are disaster capitalists and Trump is their unnatural disaster. They look to adapt to and capitalise on the situation as they would try to find profit in any scenario from hurricane to plague. Whatever happens next, it's certainly not going to be dull. Or survivable."
- omg-11
Sweden: est 77% of rapes committed by a 2% Muslim male population – Crime statistics
http://bit.ly/2m4gEPn- wrong https://www.quora.co…lowimpakt
- this post/report is fake news and fear-mongering, nothing moremonospaced
- so the terror attacked happens?pango
- perfect to troll withmonospaced
- another day, another moronic post. scumbagfadein11
- and with this post you have confirmed all our suspicians.fadein11
- all QBNrs hate himmoldero
- anonymously confirmed by Swedish policeomg
- i wonder where you got this graph from.pango
- graph source posted.omg
- 'Anonymously confirmed by Swedish police'. Not so fucking anonymous, then, is it, you fucking simpleton?Continuity
- personally i think the figures misinterprets 77% as muslim instead of foreigners of african, middle-eastern, and asian decent.omg
- or American, English, French, Spanish, Russian, Ukrainian, Nordic, etc. decentmonospaced
- lol moldy, every time! hahahaha
omg is a drooling cretin who loves posting shit links with shit statistics. proven wrong every time, but drools on in denial.BuddhaHat - based solely on a policeman's rough est. of 80% being Muslim.omg
- so basically you're pointing out that there's no reason to believe any of this ... thanks OMG for alerting us to the fake newsmonospaced
- troll hard motherfucker, troll hardmonospaced
- fyi, your same BULLSHIT article from 2015, using shit stats from 2011 and the '90s, has a chart saying foreigners are resp. for less than 70%monospaced
- it comes down to foreigners vs muslim identities being the rapists. it's whether you believe the policeman or not.omg
- it does make me wonder about how much we know about the foreigners we let in. they can't all be tech programmers, can they?omg
- as long as they are not idiots like you are they are welcome herezaq
- dumb fuck, sweden isn't the usamonospaced
- So, one fucking beat cop can speak authoritative statistics for the entire country. You really are a colossal imbecile, it's not just my imagination.Continuity
- We Should Practice Truth in Statistics, Even When It Hurts
http://bit.ly/2l0r2G…omg - yes, so let's start by interpreting them correctly, which clearly isn't being done, by you or the cop or whomever put this bullshit article togethermonospaced
- question is, what percentage of women were swedish/immigrant/mu... perhaps all these backwards can't handle their cock and sight of woman, are raping theirfruitsalad
- own kind...fruitsalad
- ignore him. he's just diverting - talking whatever load of bollocks will get him out of having a proper debate about immigration.Fax_Benson
- that's what they do - make actually discussing it impossible, so that they can accuse you of not discussing it.Fax_Benson
- ^ This is what Milo Y does. Insults, degrades, interrupts, sneers, and doesn't actually address the issue with any level of detail. Just slurs & hatred.BuddhaHat
- ^ actually, if there is one thing milo is good at is laying out tons of stats to support his arguments.Gnash
- no one likes you here omg. everything you post gets tons of downvotes lolzzzzCygnusZero4
- omg is here to troll period
Im willing to bet its the same dude who made the Orazal account which was also a troll accountmoldero - http://www.qbn.com/r…moldero
- OMG I will look for you, I will find you, and I will rape you.
-Your muslim qbnerBeeswax - @beeswax - worry not - only a few insane racist nutjobs on ere.fadein11
- @beeswax - make sure she's cute. the idea sounds curiously entertaining.omg
- omg - keep posting your racist shit on here that noone ever likes.fadein11
- FAKE NEWSfadein11
- OMG! Fake Newsutopian
- I don't think the intent of these statistics was meant to be racist. If the country gets its data from respectable sources, are they supposed to ignore facts?omg
- The stats aren't race related, and yet this interpretation attempts to make them so, which is racist. The anon cop opinion isn't reputable, btw.monospaced
- See, the headline singles out muslims and foreigners (not necessarily race), which aren't even factors in the data or polling. You posting here is race-baiting.monospaced
- If muslims and foreigners is not necessarily a race, then it's not necessarily race-bating either.omg
- Swedes are banning statistical data on the basis of PC. The Insulted vs Rape Prevention. Time for Change. Need Solutions, not ignorance from Facts.omg
- utopian1
White House confirms adviser reassigned after disagreeing with Trump
- mg333
I really want to see all the people who accused Obama of being a tyrant and a dictator wrap their minds around the fact that he was the absolute furthest possible thing from that, and that their current president is the absolute closest possible thing to that.
I know their bullshit rhetoric was simply a way of speaking out against Obama's half-whiteness, but you get my point.
- yupmoldero
- Ive seen obama get called a lot of things, mostly by racists, but I never saw him get called a tyrant or a dictator. Just saying...CygnusZero4
- I have... by my father in law.mg33
- & my mommoldero
- face_melter3
Hey omg, what's the latest on your frosted-tipped golden boy?
Oh, he made comments condoning pedophilia? Really? Wow. Post another video showing how amazing he is.
- Milo was condoning his own sexual experience by a priest at a young age where he was the victim. What kind of amazing video would you like me to post face_melt?omg
- fruitsalad-2
This 'Politics' thread is too USA centric. Never mind that twit trump (lowercase please)...
North Korea is loosing one of it's rare friends due it's 007 worthy assassination:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2…- What, there's other politics in the world?see_thru
- i think a lot of us saw that, there's just no shortage of madness emanating from the US right now to fill a single linear Politics forum...BuddhaHat
- I feel very sorry for the N. Korean people... now more than usual...BuddhaHat
- UK has its own insanity thread called Brexit - as they say - US politics pretty much affect the entire planet so its quite appropriate.fadein11
- I think you'll find Brexit precedes Trump. You can argue UK influences it's little sibling USA...fruitsalad
- ^ that's a pointless argument that nobody's interested in having.BuddhaHat
- Indeed buddha.
@fruitcake - totally irrelevantfadein11 - I can't find the video, but they have suspects of Kim Jong Nam killers on security video. One was an Asian girl wearing a 'LOL' t-shirt.omg
- chukkaphob6
- I am DYING to know what his reaction is to this, but I'm sure Fox News isn't showing these so he's not seeing them.mg33
- he's seeing themmonospaced
- allthethings1
https://thinkprogress.org/texas-…
Texas hunters who blamed immigrants actually shot each other, cops say
A Trump ally helped circulate the #gunfail tall tale.
- IRNlun6-3
- acceptance stage?monospaced
- Of what? That Trump is not a nazi monster?IRNlun6
- I had no allusions of Obama being a deep state master mind.IRNlun6
- of him being a complete tool on a magnitude never seen beforemonospaced
- I don't put much faith in billion dollar, transnational media empires. Especially when it comes to their opinions of their ideological opponents.IRNlun6
- agreed: putting faith in Trump is so idiotic, it's borderline retarded, especially in his opinions on who he thinks are his opponentsmonospaced
- Funniest/scariest thing of all this is neo-cons and the left pushing the idea that the CIA/NSA/deep state has the USAs best interest in mind.IRNlun6
- scariest thing is a "president" who is claiming the nation's own intelligence agencies can't be trusted, and that he has our best interests in mindmonospaced
- Why would you trust Trump though? A guy who lies repeatedly to his supporters (like you) and clearly doesn't know what he's doing.yuekit
- He's right. They can't, and never should be trusted. You think they had the US's best interest in mind when they lied to invade Iraq and every country since?IRNlun6
- if he doesn't get it by now, well...moldero
- If that description of Trump is accurate, it shouldn't be surprising that people in the government leak some of what is going on behind the scenes.yuekit
- It doesn't mean "deep state", just that they are concerned about an incompetent maniac running the world's most powerful military.yuekit
- Yeah, mono—US intelligence nailed it with those 'weapons of mass destruction' reports in Iraq after 9-/11... they most def. should be trusted //PonyBoy
- I don't "trust" Trump, but I do trust that he is not the monster people are making him out to be. He's not out to destroy this country.IRNlun6
- @ponyboy, agreed they fucked up ... but the alternative of trump just guessing is not viablemonospaced
- Doesn't mean he's not dangerous. Put a 70 year old man with delusional ideas about the world in charge and people leaking is the least surprising thing ever.yuekit
- This has likely happened to every president since probably Kennedy. Every president since has likely gotten the talk of comply or be destroyed.IRNlun6
- This is the first one who said he "knows more than the generals" and would be the "best at the military," before he even received a single briefingmonospaced
- This is the first one who has no idea what the nuclear triad is, and seems confused about how uranium works.monospaced
- This was probably clearest under Obama since he still seems like a decent guy.IRNlun6
- You don't go from community organizer/Senator to overthrowing governments and approving billion dollar weapons deals with governments that funded 9/11.IRNlun6
- lol ponyboy - you think the intelligence community were responsible for the war in Iraq - nope they were controlled that other nutjob's regime. And guess whatfadein11
- happened when experts spoke out against that - they were found dead on hills in England of apparent suicide. Neocons were going to war with Iraq at all costsfadein11
- exactly, that's why believing Trump would be any different, which he claims regularly, is stupid, considering it's obvious to smart people that he isn't smartmonospaced
- by that* The different situ we have now is a rogue nutjob president with no support from said intelligence agencies - terrifying. If he doesn't fall throughfadein11
- scandal/impeachment he will be very dead soon.fadein11
- @IRNlun6 http://www.independe…yuekit
- ^ Sorry http://ind.pn/2lk1FD…yuekit
- Do you think Bush Jr/Cheney where the masterminds of the Iraq war? CIA has been destroying countries globally for decades.IRNlun6
- Trump has a lot of people in his administration who are very anti-Iran, but on that basis they will support Saudi Arabia.yuekit
- What appears different, besides your beliefs that he's incompetent, is that those pushing for war with Russia are meeting resistance from the siting president.IRNlun6
- nobody's pushing for war with Russiamonospaced
- No one wants war with Russia. They are concerned about Trump's weird connections to Russia.yuekit
- yuekit, I am curious to see how that plays out. It's been barely a month. Not enough time to show that he's another Bush Jr/Obama regarding foreign policy.IRNlun6
- fade... no... didn't say they were responsible... but they did back Bush's claim... so no... you can't trust them... that was my only point.... relax.PonyBoy
- Trump is also participating in the Saudi war in Yemen (while banning refugees fleeing that conflict).yuekit
- https://theintercept…yuekit
- Neocons/Left establishment/MIC very much want war with Russia. The writing on the wall is clear as day.IRNlun6
- An actual war with Russia would completely disrupt the world economy. I don't think anyone really wants that.yuekit
- Yemen, also tragic. Will he get in line or will he be different? Odds are he tows the line since there's likely a threat to him and his family. Hopefully not.IRNlun6
- Thing is, Ms. Clinton was a guarantee to tow the line, since most of the actions with Ukraine, Libya, Yemen, and Syria happened when she was Secretary of State.IRNlun6
- @pony - I am relaxed and yep I get your point. Just think the so called sexed up dossier (as it was known over here) had v.little to do with the war in iraq -fadein11
- And her foundation received millions from some of these countries.IRNlun6
- nothing was stopping that PR exercise "mission accomplished" :)fadein11
- starting the war* god i need to type slower on herefadein11
- the idea that the left wants war with russia is exactly the kind of propaganda that Trump is trying to push, and that is the most dangerous fake news out theremonospaced
- Agreed, that is too big a generalization. Some people within the left, as well as some on the right want, war with Russia. War is profit, massive profit.IRNlun6
- I agree with that for the most part.monospaced
- perpetual war is big biz. that's why it's absurd that anyone thought Trump would stop war - he's a business man. "But Obama"fadein11
- He is meeting resistance from some in the intelligence community, not all, which is curious. Either genuine concern for the country, or just for themselves.IRNlun6
- In that business, most likely concern for themselves.IRNlun6
- That's why I don't think it makes sense to generalize...as in saying the same people who did Iraq War are attacking Trump. Not the same people.yuekit
- And consider this...if Trump DID have ties to Russian oligarchs (and there is evidence for this), how would the reaction be any different?yuekit
- The alternative media (right leaning) has a lot invested in Trump at this point, so they will inevitably see any action against him as an evil conspiracy...yuekit
- while at the same time ignoring any possible conspiracy involving Trump himself. It's quite naive to think that the only powerful interest in the world thatyuekit
- manipulates things is the U.S. government.yuekit
- Trump has done business in Russia, likely oligarchs. Problem is Putin hates oligarchs.IRNlun6
- The little I do know of Russian politics, Putin has always been at odds with the Oligarchs. Lends to his nationalist appeal.IRNlun6
- He was at odds with some of them, but the smarter ones came to an understanding with Putin. And eventually the interests of the ultra rich and the state becameyuekit
- merged together. Look at the Panama papers leak, suggesting Putin and his friends have billions stashed in offshore banking.yuekit
