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- yuekit4
I see some of you attacking Hillary and defending Trump...I'm wondering how many actual Trump voters do we have here?
How many of you are going to walk to the polling place next month and push a button saying you want Donald Trump to be leader of the free world for the next 4-8 years?
- I know at least 2 QBNers that would suck his dick if he asked. Stroke the shaft n all. You know who you are, I know you. I'm watching you asshole!sofakingback
- there are also people who are willing to vote to trump because they got soured at bernie2002
- ^ sadly those are biggest idiots. Even worst than trump supporter. At least they have an ideal they believe in, like racism.2002
- Yup, the BernieorBust gang is what scares me more than his true supporters.formed
- low energy Jeb! says he will vote for 3rd party .. In Florida ?? Da FUQ, you want to give the guy who berated you for an entire year the chance to win?Ramanisky2
- lolmonospaced
- Bernie is experiencing a gun-to-the-head endorsementomg
- He made it clear to his followers not to trust her and himself if he ended up endorsing Hillary in the future.omg
- He predicted such an outcome and those hacked emails from the DNC proves how Hillary was underhandedly sabotaging him and was accurately correct.omg
- So do you flip all the way from socialist Bernie to far-right Trump? Just trying to understand.yuekit
- The paid media is doing well on its own in attacking Trump and defending Hillary at the same time. It's actually quite awful.omg
- It's like 1984, and Trump is the considered a "thought criminal." Watching folks yell at his image. its the most scariest thing this generation is seeing.omg
- Meanwhile Hillary puts this cage on your face and asks you to believe everything she says, else the rat in the cage will eat your face.omg
- You get so scared, you'll believe everything they tell you and end up falling into the ranks of other followers.omg
- I don't think voters believe Hillary or are influenced by anything her campaign or media says. I do think most rational people want to stay clear of trump...sofakingback
- yuekit. You seem to think I'm for Trump. If you believe that any vote other than Hillary is a vote for Trump, then you might think that.omg
- that has little to do with the media. He has done that himself. He has captured one type of voter and has stuck with that platform. The rest are left hopelesssofakingback
- That's weird fucked up logic that comes from the caged rat tactic which can make you believe to see 5 fingers when there are only 4.omg
- Hispanics, Blacks, Muslims and Women were lost from the start, by the words that came out of his mouth. period.sofakingback
- sofa, that's part of the scare tactic.omg
- built by the media.omg
- Im not really sure I follow your theory. you make it sound like everything even what Trump does is crafted by Hillary. Now. If you want to believe that, more...sofakingback
- power to you. Vote who ever isn't in this elaborate plot.sofakingback
- Most of us are content with the way things are. If that were true, you wouldn't have as many Trump supporters, plus another 15% from 3rd partiesomg
- I don't beleive that. I theres two main candidates and Trump said what he said and is who he is. Thats it. Nothing to do with Hilary.sofakingback
- I don't like her either, but like most americans. I'll vote for anyone but Trump.sofakingback
- This list of things that are crafted by Hillary gets bigger everyday. Started with mainstream media and now it's every paper in the country plus podiums.monospaced
- Many thought that we could solve the racial issue if we had the first black president. You can't solve those issues through the president.omg
- Ok, but what does that have to do with your pervious point? So having a racist president is ok because he can't solve racial issues?sofakingback
- She is also deathly ill. Definitely living past her expiration date at this point. She's so powerful she must be stopped.monospaced
- Lol, she's basically the emperor from Star Wars.sofakingback
- Hillary is representing the idea of equality amongst race and sex which I support. So we'll all hold hands and everything will be good if we elect her.omg
- Forget about her. Im not talking about her. I'm talking about Trump. How is she controlling what he said? How is the media? He said it?sofakingback
- She's the dark under lord, return to earth. We got that covered. What about prince charming? Whats his role in this plot? He's the savior? He cares about me?sofakingback
- If they can take a 1 sec. sniffle out of context and turn it into a dance video...omg
- You can bet they can take his undiplomatic mannerisms and amplify it as a focal point for a plan to make a concentration camp for Mexicans.omg
- maybe amplify a crying baby at a press conference, and turn him into a child abuser.omg
- Im Mexican. All i had to do was listen to his intro speech. Done. Every Mexican I know, feels the same. How was that anyones doing other than his?sofakingback
- Do you agree with what he's said? His policies?sofakingback
- I think the most important thing, if he was to be the president, is whether or not as the people, we can change his ideas if he shoots out a bad one.omg
- The only check on his ideas and actions if he gets elected would be the Republican party. The left is not going to have any influence.yuekit
- Are you Mexican-American or Mexican?omg
- Was your interpretation of his speech on the side of the Mexican or the American?omg
- What on earth makes you think he would be a president that would change his mind about his ideas? No one can make him do it now? Do you actually think he'ssofakingback
- a rational individual? You said you e'rent voting for him right? Do you agree with what he said or his policies?sofakingback
- Which policy in particular are you referring to?omg
- I'm Mexican, born here. I took his speech as an insult and racist towards Mexican people. Citizen of the US or not.sofakingback
- You tell me. Im asking if you agree with anything he stand for. The things he has said in this election. Are you a trump supporter?sofakingback
- Last I looked, I only like 10% of his policiesomg
- You're trying to label me which is silly considering folks who were republican couple months ago are now voting democratic. its absurd.omg
- So you're American.omg
- I'm not, you can support his ideas and not support him for president. Because you clearly have a sympathetic based toward him in comparison to HC.sofakingback
- I can see why that can affect your position as also a Mexican-American.omg
- Which is fine, support who you want or what you want. You started this by saying HC controls all of this messaging. That she's using fear tactics for me to hatesofakingback
- trump. Im telling you its what he said thats my problem. not what the news said or HC said.sofakingback
- Im Mexican. A us citizen, but I am Mexican. We don't abandon our culture and who we are based on our address.sofakingback
- Sure, wether you're a mexican living in mexico or living here. Its the same insult. Same as muslims, same as blacks.sofakingback
- What top 3 sources you get your news and information on the election?omg
- You were born here, and American US Citizen.omg
- If Mexico goes to war, would you go there and fight for them?omg
- You've probably been to Mexico I'm guessing since its easier to get to, unlike China or Africa.omg
- I don't watch the news, I don't really follow a news outlet either. Its all biased. I read from all over I guess. Mostly USA today, CNN, WP, Vox, BBC.sofakingback
- I seem to visit CNN the most, but its always with a "What bullshit do these fuckers have now" How can we believe any of it these days. Its entertainment a bestsofakingback
- Depending on the circumstances. Mexico is very corrupt. But if Mexicans were getting killed and help was needed, of course. Ive been there a lot.sofakingback
- I lived there when I was young, my family lives there. We have a home there.sofakingback
- yea born heresofakingback
- my family will retire there. I would like to retire there.sofakingback
- I'm reading top 10 outrageous things DT said about latinos....omg
- I wonder where DT is getting his impression on Mexicans from.omg
- It's so confusing how you're either a Hispanic or non-hispanic ethnicity, but not a race according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.omg
- There are only 4 races... asian, black, native american and white.omg
- anyways, in my opinion... these things CT said was not intended towards Mexican-Americans.omg
- I think if you replaced "Mexicans" with "Africans", none of the black african-americans iin this country would be offended.omg
- and same goes if you replaced "Mexicans" with "Chinese". Chinese Americans would not be offended if he were talking about Chinese immigrants.omg
- Im not sure about other contras or ethnicities but Mexicans take that sort of thing pretty seriously. Here and from Mexico... in general and especially if itssofakingback
- From the US. Its just very, very serious and personal. Some Mexican Americans generations in might not feel it... hard to say.sofakingback
- At one point Mexicans were labeled "white" in the united states (before my time) It was a labor thing. Not sure what they do now.sofakingback
- You can Imagine how conflicting it can be to be first generation Mexican American. Thats why I just say Im Mexican. That feels right to me.sofakingback
- I wonder how many Mexicans there are on QBN are on the same way as you.omg
- When your grandkids are the same age as you, they're gonna feel so differently about being a Mexican-American than you.omg
- I know of 3. One, I'm certain hates trump. the rest, I don't know.sofakingback
- Probably, It all depends on your family values. I've seen guys in my place have different opinion. Ive seen multi-gen people be true. Values man.sofakingback
- Don't you cherish your family past and culture? Would you feel anything if a presidential nominee insulted that past? Would you feel proud to be an american?sofakingback
- what do you cherish in your culture sofa?yurimon
- I've been there. The issue hit home for many culture I can think of in journalism. I can't remember how long it was when people couldn't figure out whether...omg
- to refer to others as black, african, afro-american, african-american, black-american.omg
- there were the confusing issues when journalists writing about the chinese in China, because the chinese in the US weren't stealing jobs, or outsourcing them.omg
- How many years has it been since folks began zigzagging between using the word nigga and the n*word, and what type of person could use that word.omg
- people are still currently trying to figure out whether "black lives matter" is racist, and if "white lives matter" is ignorant and racist or not.omg
- it can be confusing.omg
- just political correctness when using words that refer to other cultures, races and ethnicities can create mistaken intentions of racism.omg
- I grew up in a mostly Mexican decent city and have hundreds of Mexican friends and ALL of them feel like sofaking.monospaced
- The Mexican culture and heritage is a big part of the world I grew up in. Lots to be proud of.monospaced
- utopian3
Trump Tax Records Obtained by The Times Reveal He Could Have Avoided Paying Taxes for Nearly Two Decades
- i'm not gonna mention that this was time lined 3 posts down.omg
- Yes you are.monospaced
- What a POS...tax dodging commie!utopian
- omg-6
Watch #Latinos For Trump bury CNN panel.
- Guys like that don't represent the majority of Mexicans. While, he spent most of that saying "hey, these guys want to deport you too" that doesn't make Trumps..sofakingback
- statements ok. That doesn't make his plans any better. He's not looking out for me or Mexican people. Trump is still a hateful racist in the eyes of most mexicasofakingback
- These guys have assimilated. Their loss if you ask me. Im not betraying my people, my conscience is clean. His will haunt him someday. Mine won't.sofakingback
- spreading false racism for the sake of politics could be worse than racism itself. It's a very good thing this guy has a position in defense for Latinos.omg
- Like said before, he said those words. He can't un-ring that bell, they're gonna remember that forever. Its not like they love HC either. But hey, lesser of twosofakingback
- So you think that this country may revert back to how blacks were treated during slavery times under Trump?omg
- While all the races mingle together here at the same schools, pizzerias, movies, they'll be a separate area for Mexicans under Trump?omg
- No. But I do think things are great for them in many cases. I think theres still a lot of prejudice toward them. I don't see that getting any better.sofakingback
- Things are great for...Who is them?omg
- Also, I don't think thats a Trump thing. That problem has been here and going strong for a long time.sofakingback
- "dont" for blacks.sofakingback
- Of course not. What people like trump threaten to do is very similar to what Arizona tried to do. Pass laws that allow law enforcement to harass americans basedsofakingback
- on the color of their skin. Saying, this person looks like an illegal. Well that idea might sound like a reasonable idea to a non-hispanic american. butsofakingback
- that loss of freedom goes across the board "illegal" can be anyone. So now the law has the right to harass anyone they see fit.sofakingback
- you're talking about "undocumented immigrants" an issue that's easily solved by displaying a drivers license.omg
- as an example.omg
- is the worry that one can get accidentally deported? or getting caught as an undocumented immigrant? or having to deal with law enforcement asking for papers?omg
- Yes. But, what made the officer ask for your ID to begin with? He wouldn't need a reason. Just suspicion of being and Illegal. A white person can be an illegalsofakingback
- As you know, governments and its agencies abuse power. they abuse the laws in their benefit. That is a freedom all americas should worry about losingsofakingback
- how would you solve the issue of keeping immigrants documented in America?omg
- embedded nano chips in every person in America?omg
- What you're describing is the intended use of that law. The concern is police abusing that law to harass citizens. Mostly hispanics. They could do it to anyonesofakingback
- maybe get rid of the cash system.omg
- I don't know, thats not something I specialize in. Those people mostly want to work and send money home, they don't really want to live here. My parents didn'tsofakingback
- Maybe a program for them to register, work, pay taxes, and head back when the visa is up. Sure some will stay. I don't know, but that wouldn't be my focussofakingback
- a digital cashless system containing identification and immigration status might rid the country of undocumented immigrantsomg
- Personally, I don't want Mexicans to come here and work. I don't want to see my people be workers for this country. I wish there was no need for them to comesofakingback
- didn't you say the mexican government was corrupt? why go back home? didn't you make a lot of cool friends growing up here in America?omg
- Its Mexicos responsibility to make their country a place mexicans can live a good life. Not be modern slaves to a country that hates them.sofakingback
- of course, I said I want to retire there. Not any time soon. lol. I love Mexico, I love the people and the culture. I love being Mexican.sofakingback
- America already offers working visas for immigrants.omg
- A lot of people move to mexico and commute too. I wouldn't, but its common. Massive wait time to cross and you risk getting harassed by border patrolsofakingback
- Gary Johnson should probably have a better grasp of these issues with Mexico.omg
- Do Mexicans like him?omg
- They do, but its not easy as easy to obtain. Even employers avoid that route. because you have to sponsor (employ) that person for a year (i think) US visas aresofakingback
- tough to deal with I hear.sofakingback
- I think you need to come here for college where those issues improve.omg
- I don't know, I liked some of the things he said. about immigration and other things. Unfortunately, IP doesn't get people to the booth, its a shame.sofakingback
- having free education would probably help.omg
- maybe jill stein's plan could open doors for serving immigation via school to work programs.omg
- Huh? I live here. I went to college here.sofakingback
- So why Hillary again?omg
- Im not for her. lol. Go to sleep. hahahasofakingback
- Just not Trump, never Trump. Good night.sofakingback
- ya i will, thanks. gnightomg
- omg-12
Hillary failed as secretary of state — why would president be any different?
http://nypost.com/2016/09/27/hil…"Clinton tried to weasel out of taking the blame for Benghazi, testifying to Congress that she wasn’t personally involved in embassy security. But emails later revealed that was false."
- Having the same family twice never impacted this country in a good way. She may be an over qualified politician.omg
- Too many people need and want change. Do people seriously think we need to fight the same racial and sexual violent indifferences that existed in the 60s?omg
- Please. It's not even close to the same as the civil rights movements from the sixties right now.monospaced
- freedom3
LOL, Trump is the baby of Gordon Gekko and Snooki.
- omg-7
Poll: Desire for major third party grows
"Most Americans say that the country needs a third major political party according to a Gallup poll released Thursday."
- http://thehill.com/b…omg
- why the downvotes?formed
- This poll always has an inherent problem: when people are asked "Would you like a third party?" they tend to hear, "Would you like a better option?"nb
- A third party could never satisfy ALL the people who answered yes to this poll. If a third party were viable, one would naturally gain traction.nb
- There are two other candidates already, and they poll abysmally low. There's a reason for that, it's not supernatural.nb
- This election was ripe for the libertarian party to make gains but they put up a jerk-off like Gary Johnson? They need someone with charisma and character._niko
- actually not even, they just need someone half way decent and they would crush trump and hillary._niko
- Gnash5
these guys can really hit it sometimes :)
- why does he get 'aged' treatment and she doesn't. is it a political or gender bias?hotroddy
- ?? It's Alec Baldwin. He's 60.severian
- they just rubbed cheeto dust on his face.severian
- @hotroddy: It's called Television. Look it up!nb
- i guess alec is just old. I remember him looking much younger.hotroddy
- Alec is 58 and was perfectly cast as Trump. The woman is a regular on the show.CyBrainX
- Why hasn't anyone complained that just about every politician in SNL history was portrayed by a younger actor?CyBrainX
- and there haven't been many 70 yo's on the cast of SNLGnash
- lowimpakt4
Rudy Giuliani is on various news channels saying Trump is a "genius" for not paying tax.
That implies that the rest of the public that do pay tax are stupid.
Giuliani is a fuckface.
- what a disgraceernexbcn
- Idiot Giuliani is not helping trump one bit.
goodmoldero - Less $ to fund wars.yurimon
- really yuri?monospaced
- can you logically figure out the real moral issue?yurimon
- i think if any of our accountants came to us and said they worked it out (legally) so that we wouldn't pay any tax this year we'd be quite happy.Gnash
- nb4
"By the way I don't like this mic. Whoever the hell brought this mic, don't pay the son of a bitch who put this mic system in. Do hear that George? Don't pay him! Don't pay him! You know I believe in paying, but when somebody does a bad job... you shouldn't pay the bastard. I guarantee I'm not paying for this."
- Donald Trump, trying to convince a country to make him president.
Some people just love this idiot. Listen to them hootin' and hollerin' for him. It blows my mind. Imagine him at an Environment Summit, or any diplomatic meeting. What a fucking clown.
- Dude can't even handle speaking into a microphone!!! hahahaha wtf good luck, America!nb
- Lil' Donny is having his daily hissy fit poor baby.utopian
- Petulant, spoiled child.monospaced
- ^mirror of projectionyurimon
- you don't know me so I can say you're completely wrong and full of hateful bullshit, and I'd be right toomonospaced
- i know the basics. a mirror is not hate unless you have hate.yurimon
- exactly why I'm just as right calling you a hate filled person as you do calling me one; theres' nothing you do here that makes you immune to your own shitmonospaced
- you admitted it, I'm just calling it out and debating different points of view peacefully.yurimon
- just because you haven't admitted it, doesn't mean you aren't made entirely of it. see, it's just words on the internet, and mine are just as true as yoursmonospaced
- you do hate hillary, that's obvious by everything you say about hermonospaced
- utopian4
- The denial is overwhelming.monospaced
- your expression of morality sheeple is hilarious. funny how hatred for one individual could turn a moral argument upside downyurimon
- damn utopian, you got burned!monospaced
- When you post a Giuliani quote and provide absolutely no opinion, you're turning ethics on its head. Let's not consider what trump actually said.monospaced
- Plant more treesutopian
- taxation is a moral issue is the $$ you give spent morally? it obviously a paradox to contemplate the true nature of its nature and morality.yurimon
- Haha. I was simply pointing out weird t was that YOU brought up morality. Please don't imply that utopian or I did.monospaced
- Personally I just think it's idiotic to say not paying millions in taxes is genius, let alone something to brag about, even if there was a loophole that allowedmonospaced
- It's not a loophole normal people could exploit either. Lots of people don't like that the rich person stigma is alive there.monospaced
- why so attached to the slavitude? https://en.wikipedia…yurimon
- oh yuri...monospaced
- the oh yuri thing is your brain farting at the notion of thinking past the programming.yurimon
- oooohhhh yurimonospaced
- I'm not programmed to think he bragged about not paying taxes or that Giuliani thinks he's a genius for it. That actually happened.monospaced
- that was just basic observation. but thinking within the program isyurimon
- Yes i observed that. So did everyone else. Not sure how that warrants your hate and judgement of me in any way.monospaced
- I'm trying to help you out, its not hate, thats the problem my young barista friend in seeing everything profound outside your safespace as a threatyurimon
- Wait. So you can tell people they are filled with hate but they can't say the same about you? Why the double standard morally fucked grasshopper?monospaced
- See what I did there using your line against you for no reason, like you are so fond of doing! Fun isn't it?monospaced
- I'm not offended nor feel hate. calm and relaxed. you can say all what you want, but i am not effected because it doesnt apply. when something applies i takeyurimon
- into account, and i try so with awareness of ego. no one is perfect on here but i can see the limitations of interaction in side notesyurimon
- same here; I see everything you do and there's no hate, that's why it's so ridiculous that you label me as hateful, see how that works?monospaced
- which brings us back to the fact that Trump is bragging about not paying taxes, exploiting a rich corporate greed loophole, and this crony is calling him geniusmonospaced
- no need to get all worked up and attack someone's morality for mentioning this fact, like you did before. Get it?monospaced
- lossing money is a loophole? flolyurimon
- no, apparently it's "genius"monospaced
- lolmonospaced
- it happens but he seems to have recovered. if you where so smart you couldve done well for yourself.yurimon
- eryx-4
- eryx-3
- WTF? worked in the test threaderyx
- Try youtube.com not youtu.bemonospaced
- Good thing we got that test thread.nb
- since19790
Did Mao say this during the Great Leap Forward?
"When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill."
- eryx1
- dbloc-1
- utopian3
- I dont pay taxes because im smart, you pay them for me because you're dumbRealDonaldTrump
- he will still windrgs
- nb5
- ernexbcn4
haha Alec Baldwin nailed it!
- ugh. this makes john olivier funny.yurimon
- Nailed it.monospaced
- oh you madernexbcn
- lol, no. i was looking forward to it being funny in snl style.they either hit or miss, this failed.yurimon
- scowling face is always scowlingutopian
- oh god, this was far from funny. Alec Baldwin is the WORST impersonation oof Trump we've seen. Cringeworthy.chukkaphob
- ^lol
Good stuff.formed - this whole thing was terrible2002
- so bad! yikes.chukkaphob
- omg2
Bernie struggling to keep cool with Hillary.
#BasementDwellers
- people still paying attention to this phony? LOLchukkaphob
- love the bernsince1979
- clearly bernie doesnt want to shuut himself in the back 3 times.yurimon
- Bernie is so irrelevant. Power hungry phony who tricked and manipulated a bunch of college kids into believing he's genuinely on their side. A fraud.chukkaphob
- people are so gullible to fall for his BS. LOL!chukkaphob
- how was he a fraud? honest question/interest. I see a lot of hate on qbn for bernie... never understood why.inteliboy
- no hate for bernie. just hate for his supporter who will vote against hillary and let trump win2002
- Fascist Characteristic
Identification of Enemies as a Unifying Cause - People rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate common threatomg
