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- blingy0
It's fucked, that was my experience from visiting anyway
- what did you try to do? I had no problems during my visits.flashbender
- moprints0
It's great.. just too dirty.
- Dancer0
not the best but certainly not the worst...
- kelpie0
Its bad compared to a lot of european cities that's for sure, but the whole public transport system UK wide is fucked.
- set0
Nice poster though
- creative-0
It is a let down to put it mildly
- NewElpaso0
better this .. than the cramming-happy jap system..
- Spookytim0
Its pre-Victorian. Its the blueprint for all the transport systems of all the major cities of the world, subterranean or otherwise, so knock it if you will, but its the mother of all urban systems.
Its the Renault Espace Mk1 to your Vauxhall Zafira "Flare".
RESPECT IT.
- christoff0
word spookytim.
it's so fashionable to hate it, just like it's fashionable to buy fairtrade, and shop locally...well you know what! i like fuji water, and fairtrade is a scam and i like be felt up by random strangers at 100 degrees in a dark sticky tunnel.
- kelpie0
its a great model for mass transit, yet another great 19th century british idea, the problem is that it (and other UK systems, our up here in particular) haven't been able to keep pace efficiently with the demands placed on it over the years and has become a mess.
It doesn't help that we run a different track guage to the rest of europe, meaning that all the rolling stock in britain needs to be made bespoke and costs far more than in say Germany or France.
My brother once said that the best thing that ever happened to a lot of european countires in this regard was being leveled to the ground during teh 2nd WW and having to start from scratch and all use the same basic system.
bit controversial but you can see what he means
- olli1010
Out of curiosity - do any of you Londoners take the Overground (aka Silverlink) regularly? I always find it funny that everyone screams about the usual suspects but you almost never hear about it - especially when the service is so shite. :-)
- Spookytim0
I feel entitled to defend the Underground against knockers and detractors as I now live 60 miles away from its most southerly station and so hardly ever have to endure its grim inefficiency these days.
But it wasn't always that way, oh no, you see... because... I used to be a Londoner you know, oh yes, back in the day... I worked for Enterprise IG You know, they were a very marvellous company were Enterprise IG , erm, they did... was I. Oh yes, they were the people who made the Seat Cars logo 10 times bigger than it should be. Marvellous. Do you know, I was there at Enterprise IG on that fateful day when the blah blah blah ... (fade sound, apply wobbly time travel filter to image and fade to black screen... wait three seconds, change hands on wall clock to suggest 20 minutes have elapsed... fade back up again, fade in audio...) ... "blah blah blah, so you see, if it wasn't for my quick thinking, on my feet, what I like to do under pressure, they'd have picked the wrong logo.
Oh yes, I was very well known for my quick thinking I am, I was always getting invited along as a special guest hof honour, to the best brainstorms at all the most prestigious of companies in London, such as Enterprise IG for example, and others, to name a few for you. I once shook hands with Elton John in the OXO tower you know. Now if you'll excuse me, I must carry on making my preparations what I am currently making, for the first ever International Shoreham-Upon-Sea Annual Global Art and Design Conference, of which I am guest speaker of honour. Oh they're all coming for this one, oh yes, Stephen Sagaloo will be there, erm, not Sagaloo, thats a spincah dish... Stephen Surfmeister, No its... Stephen Smugmaster, or is it Slagmonster.... I must check that before I send his invite... What am I talking about? Nurse? NURSE, I'M CONFUSED AGAIN, HELP ME UP"
- ximeraLabs0
I think the tube is great, sure its far from perfect - but imagine if it wasn't available to us...
- Imagine London wasn't there, imagine we had flying cars, imagine.. its easy if you try...ribit
- 7million flying cars... that would be awesome.flashbender
- mild0
i live in glasgow, who cares about the underground aye its mince but its great and in the summer when its really hot you get the pleasure of someones sweaty arm in your face...oh how i miss it so...
- thumb_screws0
I catch the Silverstink everyday, at first i enjoyed the random knife checks and metal detectors placed at the station entrances. It added an element of danger to my dull journey to work. However i use Dalston Kingsland station and in summer it has to be the most rancid smelling station in London, all the Butchers and Fruit and Veg vendors wash their days filth down the drains and it ends up rotting in the station. I have witness people doubled over dry retching from a whiff of the stench.
Tube is a delight compared to it (apart from the black Tube boogers you get after extended Tube use)- Uft, Dalston Kingsland Silverlink, I hear you, brother - these Tube botherers don't know they're born!detritus
- YAYPaul0
I respect it, but It was certainly fucked today, like half the office late fucked,
- lowimpakt0
it's as broken as the city itself.
- I'd like to know more.detritus
- [would you like to know more?]YAYPaul
- :)
*presses screen*detritus - transport infrastructure can be indicative of broader structural and socio-technical conditions.lowimpakt
- 'Can be', fair enough.
But 'is'?
All I see is circular reasoning.detritus - there are no absolutes in complex social systems.
he he.lowimpakt
- moth0
It's the inner city overland trains that are the main problem.
I use them everyday, and everyday they're late, and everyday they're dirty. EVERYDAY.All of it is too expensive.
I think the basic plan is to price people off it to reduce the capacity needed, rather than put some real thought into fixing it.
Basically, London will be kept for rich money sucking whores like Major Ken (just where is all that money?) and to hell with the rest of you.