techno concerts.
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- vague
ok so.
i dont care if theyre not really considered techno.. whatever you want to call them..
take an act like Justice. all of their music is digitally composed and arranged.
so you go and see a set by a group like Justice... what the hell are the guys doing exactly except pressing a Play button on a laptop? all ive ever watched been to is indie rock bands, etc. its obvious. you lpay instruments.
but.. there are no instruments. its all electronic. so wtf do they do?
- Llyod0
spin records sometimes. that's pretty much about it.
- antistatic0
They have two laptops with clips in Ableton Live, mixer and midi keyboard controller. Basically they switch and mix different clips in Ableton Live and adjust effects, filters, loops and so on via midi keyboard controller. It's called laptop Dj-ing. But for live they mix their own parts of the songs/instruments.....making new music on the fly with samples
- ukit0
1. Checking e-mail
2. Friend request to cute girl on MySpace
3. Laughing at you for paying to get into their show
- _me_0
- zaq0
- flashbender0
some are good some are bad it all depends on the act. DJ Krush was really good the first time I saw him becasue he's spinning records and mixing and switching things up. The last time, not so much, it was kind of boring.
Seeing Crystal Method back in the day was great - two guys, 6 decks, 3 keyboards, they were flying all over doing crazy shit. And there were hot lesbians in front of me.
Same with BT - great live set, except instead of lesbians there was dude with a tranny.
Everything else must not have been memorable because I don;t really remember anything else.
- see? Dj crush spins records, thats not the same.
common mistake!Meeklo
- see? Dj crush spins records, thats not the same.
- horton0
oh gawd this topic is so tired.
if you're really interested, take yourself out to a credible but small-ish "techno" performance and watch the musician, not tits and beer.
- ninjasavant0
I like electronic music however they deliver it.
- GreedoLives0
Underworld and Coldcut, some of the best shows i've ever seen. Underworld has mad video projections and Karl Hyde jumps around like a burning squirrel. Coldcut has pioneered some video editing software, they basically cut a music video right in front of you, cutting it up right along to what they're doing with their decks. It's far from boring, and really, it's in essence dance music, perhaps you'll be tempted to shake your ass so you don't have to look at the stage so much.
- slappy0
303, 505s, 909s, low frequency oscillators, samplers, decks, mixers, synths. I think you will find a lot of good electro outfits have more "instruments " then most bands. Biftek used to put on an awesome show.
Vague, are you Jerry Seinfield? You seem to have a lot of "whats the deal with..." threads.
- Is a lot of expert knob twiddling though.slappy
- Better than I can twiddle a knob.ninjasavant
- it can be more complex than playing a guitar, or any other traditional instrument since some play EVERY instrument at the same timeMeeklo
- the same time, it all depends on who is playingMeeklo
- Jaline0
I don't know, but I have seen "Holy Fuck!" in concert twice and they do some crazy shit. It always looks like they are working very hard. They start sweating profusely too...more than the audience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hol…They use a lot of random instruments.
- mikotondria20
Get along somewhere (almost all in europe now) and watch Cisco Ferriera as 'The Advent'..all over his kit like a rash. Runs some looped midi sequences from a laptop powering like 3 synths, a drum machine, and some fx boxes, creating quite the most unholy filthy seemingly limitless racket..
There are as many ways to put on a 'live' performance of electronic music as there are performers, but remember you've only got 2 hands and one brain, so whatever particular combination of pre-sequenced/pre-recorded parts you combine with content that you can control and/or create live that gives the best performance, then do..
Sure there are people that just press play on a dat, or whatever, and stand there looking earnestly at the screen, but dance music never was about everybody stood there watching 1 or more people 'perform', that was really the whole point - that the event or performance was happening on the dance floor.
Back in the day, some of the more credible underground clubs had the dj poked away behind a booth, or up high where noone could see them.
Then with the return to celebrity culture and total cunts like Paul Oakenfold standing on a brightly lit stage and throwing his arms up like he's fucking jesus, and 5000 halfwitted fucksticks all staring at him and cheering instead of listening to his piss-awful mixing of 3rd rate derivative electro-pop-trance, the whole thing went to rat shit.
Sure, back in the day there might be a PA or 2 thrown into a night just to mix it up a bit, and it was all grist for the mill, especially if they did well (eg prodigy before 93), but the whole point of the events was the atmosphere on the dancefloor when everyone was facing each other, which is an utterly different experience to everybody sharing the space by proxy, ie looking at one other person whether they're creating the sound or not. Flashy crowd-surfing DJs and glammed up PAs shouting 'come on!' through the microphone just suck donkey balls.
- Meeklo0
you obviously don't know much about electronic music in gral.
Here London Elektricity explains how they play live:- "electronic music in gral" ?
What u talking about ?mikotondria2
- "electronic music in gral" ?
- Meeklo0
Well miko, I assume that if someone confuses a Dj set with a live electronic music concert, most likely don't know much about electronic music in general, is that a bad assumption?
Not saying one is better than the other, just saying they are 2 different things.
- Meeklo0
Here is another example on how is played live, by Thomas Dolby
http://www.thomasdolby.com/media…
- Meeklo0
Herbie Hancock in the studio:
- mikotondria20
Yeh, Meeklo, as much of a cross-over as there is 'nowadays', with DJs splicing in their own prerecorded material, looping and fx and so on, I would say that the 2 disciplines are fundamentally different, if only that a good DJ puts the majority of their creative output into a several hours long piece, which is entirely a different talent than crafting every beat, bar or minute...Just recall how different tracks sound when programmed into a set differently..
- In my eyes, I think the vast majority of djs mix someone else's track, there are a handful that don't thoughMeeklo
- yep.mikotondria2