Fred Thompson
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- fortified0
to generalize and say liberals aren't interested in security is just flimsy.
I don't think you, fox news or the bush administration actually believe that, its only said to create unnecessary public fear and it makes for a cute sound byte and a nice slogan.
the terrorists hate our freedom, liberals don't want security, being anti-war/pro-peace is anti-patriotic. These are all so transparent, you're fooling yourself if you think people actually fall for it.
I love this country. I believe we should never use war for economic gain that it should always be directly provoked and always the last measure.
I also believe that we've stirred up a hornets nest and that we cant simply walk away, we need to evolve our role in Iraq to that of operations and not direct security.
I believe all these things and I also align my political paradigms with people like Noam Chomsky, Bertrand Russel, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Joseph Déjacque and Robin Hahnel and believe in things like direct democracy and a level economic and social playing field. In other words, I am a liberal. Imagine that, I believe in security (done legally) and I am a flaming anarcho-socialist-liberal.
- PonyBoy0
i'm gonna go ahead and assume you were talking to tommyo, dobbers?
- PonyBoy0
regarding the 'german 1936' comment, dobs
- mrdobolina0
of course, wtf would that have to do with abortion?
- tommyo0
hahaha you're a fucking idiot.
- PonyBoy0
absolutely nothing!!!
... it was a short post that appeared after two of mine... that's all...
... wasn't sure... I was just getting affirmation, affirming, authenticating, corroborating, corroboration, ratifying, recognizing, sanctioning, substantiating, validating, gaining verification, verifying, and bearing Witness to what you actually meant...... just to clarify
- tommyo0
'liberals aren't interested in security is just flimsy.'
You dorks should get together and figure out your stance...as far as Dobs is concerned there is no threat it's all Disney.
- tommyo0
internet debates are ridiculous.
- mrdobolina0
no substance to what you say ever, tommy, stick to the michael vick threads and things you hear about on howard stern.
- mrdobolina0
You dorks should get together and figure out your stance...as far as Dobs is concerned there is no threat it's all Disney.
tommyo
(Sep 6 07, 15:32)wow, this is why you are down with the sheep, you said a mouthful there.
- fortified0
exactly my point.
You yourself just said you can't generalize. So then, keep in mind that everyone has a voice in this discourse and that all those voices, the dissenters and the cheerleaders, are all valuable.
HOWEVER, as I said you are fooling yourself if you think that me or any of my fellow liberals are not interested in security.
Nor will I allow you to define for me what I believe security should entail. It means something different for everyone, but we all agree in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I'll tell you what I am interested in, I don't need you telling me if I am interested in security or not, as I'm sure my fellow liberals will agree.
- tommyo0
dobs this isn't a debate. You will never be swayed from your point of view, which is why this is so ridiculous.
- mrdobolina0
you dont know shit, I proved my point.
- tommyo0
haha yeah you proved your point. I agree with you now! If it weren't for the big bad republicans acting up then the world would be all marshmallows and baby kisses...just like it's been for the thousands of years before Bush.
- mrdobolina0
say something that means something, once. What exactly don't we agree on? That you are an idiot?
- TheBlueOne0
A fight that conservatives were all about. Apparently not anymore.
mrdobolina
(Sep 6 07, 14:42)'Cause 9-11 changed everything. Duh, don't you pay attention to the talking points Dobs..
- mrdobolina0
Blue:
Bob and Brian didn't talk about that on Lazer 103 this morning, in between classic rock tunes, So I have no idea about it.
- tommyo0
What don't we agree on? You mean other than just about everything? I'm not going to sit here and debate you because:
1. Internet debates are a waste of time.
2. You're a mental midget.
3. Nothing political has ever been solved in an internet message board.
4. I'm at work and can't believe I've wasted this much time today.
5. You're abrasive and I've been in this situation plenty of times with people just like you. Nothing gets solved and it ends up getting personal.
- mrdobolina0
your numbered list has things in it that do not relate to what you are talking about.