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- gramme0
Sounds like some great creative writing. I'm sure Tom Harpur did a lot of research on his book "Pagan Christ", but people who have based their lives on the study of Egypt and it's culture (egyptologists) have another take, which seems more credible based on their credentials:
"Reactions of Egyptologists:
Ward Gasque, a volunteer book reviewer for Amazon.com surveyed twenty contemporary Egyptologists. He asked them about the origins of Jesus' name, the relationship between Horus and Jesus, whether both experienced a virgin birth, and whether the Egyptian religion considered Hourus to be an incarnation of God.
Ten responded, They agreed:
Jesus' name is a Greek form of a very common Semitic name Jeshu'a, which is normally translated into English as Joshua.
There is no evidence that Horus was born of a virgin, that he had twelve disciples, or that he was considered incarnation of God."
gramme
(Aug 25 07, 14:09)OK so maybe that's not a "mountain" of evidence, but I think that squarely answers the false Egyptian parallels. I plan to look into the other nonsense this movie spouts as time allows.
- ukit0
The religion stuff seemed fairly convincing. But the ending of the thing saying that the money changers are in control and they are going to imprison us with the mark of the beast....WTF?
- mrdobolina0
I plan to look into the other nonsense this movie spouts as time allows.
gramme
(Oct 17 07, 12:28)Great unbiased approach.
- gramme0
Great unbiased approach.
mrdobolina
(Oct 17 07, 12:47)Haha, touche...however they didn't get off to a great start, so I don't have high hopes. Call me cynical.
- mrdobolina0
please investigate the 100 examples of similarities between christianity and other civilization's religious stories.
- gramme0
I plan to. However from what I already know of all the major religions, there are basic similarities such as:
1. People pray
2. People believe in a higher power(s)
3. People believe in an afterlife
4. All religions have scripture of some sort
5. They all have a creation storyI have yet to find deeper similarities, but I am certainly curious. The reason I can't take this movie at its word is because it's a movie.
- So movies are all false, kinda like Passion of the Christ?thedriver
- mrdobolina0
http://www.gotquestions.org/zeit…
Here... the source seems biased but I found something for you. It is interesting, I do not know the first thing about Horus, so whatev.
- flashbender0
THe church moved the date of christmas to share a festival day with the Cult Of Mithras - a Persian god who was very popular with the soldiers of the roman empire.
Interesting side note: followers of Mithras also invented the "handshake".
- gramme0
What about the fact that Christmas just happens to be on the exact same day as a number of much older, Pagan holidays? Seems like kinda a strange coincidence, no?
ukit
(Oct 17 07, 14:04)That's old news. Nobody is sure on the exact dates of Christmas and Easter. In western Europe, the traditional dates for these Christian holidays came about because the early Roman Catholic church decided to try and push out pagan holidays by using the same dates for Christian holidays: the winter solstice celebration becomes Christmas (with it's old multiple days of celebration), Beltain (Celtic springtime holiday, I believe) becomes Easter, not to mention Halloween which was a very poorly masked Samhain (Celtic harvest).
- gramme0
was it Mithras? I thought it was some winter solstice thingy.
was it a *special* handshake?
- ukit0
May be old news, but I'm not sure a lot of Christians would be so thrilled with the idea that they are celebrating the birth of God on a day picked to appease Pagans by the Roman empire.
- gramme0
I'm Christian, and I don't really care when the events are celebrated, all I care about is that they are celebrated at all.
- mitsurugi0
"www.gotquestions.org/z...
Here... the source seems biased but I found something for you. It is interesting, I do not know the first thing about Horus, so whatev."
hehe, just a little biased. :)
- flashbender0
That's a grey area - The Church - such as it was then - moved the date to combat the spread of Mithras - the biggest competitor to Christianity at that time... it could very well be that Mithras' birthday was the 25th because of the whole winter solstice deal.
Pretty regular handshake - instead of what we do today though, they would grasp each other's wrists or forearms - like they did in the hercules TV show with Kevin Sorbo
- thedriver0
Just finished watching Part 1.
Amazing, makes me think all these religious people are even crazier than I first though. Worshiping their false gods and the sun.
- You can see why people worshipped the sun though, given the knowledge of their era.Mimio
- Oh totally, it makes total sense to me. I just can't believe that has been spun into modern/past religion as a sole means...thedriver
- means of controlling people. It's disgusting. I just don't understand how people can't see through the bullshit.thedriver
- Studiospooky0
Wait, is this the trailer? or the whole movie...
- Studiospooky0
Probably been seen, discussed and discarded many time here/on NT already, but a good message film without the religious or political angle is Baraka, and also Kayaniskatsi & Powwaskatsi or however the damn hell you spell that.
- I think these films are favorites of a lot of people.Mimio
- BattleAxe0
"This is just a ride" <-- so true
Yea I have seen it twice , and yes it makes for good conversation.not sold that 911 was an inside job , but more of a catapult for the war thirsty elite , cause like Mc Cain said "there will be more wars"