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- k0na_an0k0
fuckity fuck
- meffid0
got any examples Crouwel?
- Crouwel0
not at the moment, sorry.
- moth0
http://www.twobobstock.com/img.p…
This was taken with the Lomo LCA, which has a tiny lens.
In some respects it has qualities that my OM10 doesn't - such as the vignette round the edges of this image.
That whacked-out contrast is just a result of over-exposure.
I personally don't think that digital cameras are much cop right now. I certainly don't think the quality is any better.
- rafalski0
if crouwel were right on that, medium and large format photography would've been history.
small depth of field, bokeh.. these don't come wih a ps camera.
- ok_not_ok0
mmmmmm... bokeh
- paraselene0
i got a 16mm attachment for my old coolpix and it improves the quality of the shots soooooo much you wouldn't believe it.
i had really fallen out of love with digital, but with the adaptor my camera is finally a point and shoot. get me?
and if i do want to use the manual settings, the shots look tonnes nicer as well.
behold!
with:
without:
sure, my honker looks vast in the first one, but it's simply much easier to take a good photo with the wide-angle.
- scoops0
I'll say this, if you invest in a good digital SLR (i'm personally a canon guy) then you can learn as you go. Shoot a ton of picture, see where you're going wrong and try something else. repeat over and over until you get what you're looking for.
That's the beauty of digital, you laid out all the cash up front so you so you can F*ck up over and over and over again until you get it right... no penalties :)
good luck!
- meffid0
got a specific canon model you'd reccomend scoops?
- kbags0
DSLRs...TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
A Nikon D70 will make you look like a genius. So will a Canon, which is what everyone else on NT would advise.
- nocomply0
meffid - you will do fine with the rebel xt + a decent lens. no need to spend more. most of the shots you like turn out well because of composition, lighting, touch ups, etc...
- haha0
it's not the tool that makes the picture, it's the photographer.
my recommendation is you don't HAVE to spend a lot on your gear.
Learn to work with what you have.do some reading, look at a lot of photography, and learn what you like.
i didnt read the whole thread, but i looked at your baby picture in your first post.
learn about fill light. it can be flash, but it doesn't have to be. you can just use a simple white card and get beatiful light. and all that can be done with a point and shoot camera. sure the dslr is nice, but you don't need it to make good pictures.
learn some basic lighting, some photoshop techniques, etc.
just experiment and you will find techniques that work for you, and not have to blow a big amt of money to achieve the look you want.
- scoops0
Like others have said the Rebel is a good camera. It will last you a good long bit of time before you get the itch to upgrade.
I know because i've been shooting with the original rebel for three years and i'm just now buying a 30D next week.
Some have said that that is the photographer, not the gear... and to an extent i think that is very true... however, I feel that if you are just getting started you really do need the proper tools.
Once you know how to take a good picture with a good camera, then yeah, you can go back to your point & shoot and turn out some very nice stuff, but you might never learn proper metering and exposure with a point and shoot.
oh, and if you can afford it, do yourself a favor and get something better than the kit lens. If you can't, it's not a big deal. so just go have some fun :)
- ourcommon0
meff
30D is a great camera - but u can get the 20d for a LOT cheaper - and its basically the same camera ( there iis some new func. with the 30d, but since you're starting out - the 20 is fine )
. With the $$ you save , u could get another lens...
but I recc Canon over Nikon in digital ( I switched from Nikon Film to Canon Digi )
- ok_not_ok0
Sell a kidney get a EOS 1DS-Mark II
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/…
and for a lens get a ef 85mm 1.2L
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/…
and you're set!
- ourcommon0
ya, that 85mm 1.2 is a badass mofo
- Sickman0
scoops is bang on with the rebel recommendation
don't bother getting a 20d or a 30d - you won't need it
and the kit lens will be just fine for now - don't spend money on a high end lens until you know what your getting into
if you anything you will need a good tripod before you will need the lens
- scoops0
Just to follow up on what Sickman said... I wasn't meaning that you should go all out and but an "L" class lens ("L" for Luxury [i shit you not, that's really what it stands for], the top of the line) however, i would say that saving the $100 from the kit lens and spending not so very much more you get a lens like this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/…
It's a great starter lens that is affordable, and 1 million times sharper than the kit lens.
having said that, if you can't spare the extra $130, that kit lens will do you pretty well for a start.
Honestly you're right where i was a few years ago, and i'm just trying to let you know what i wish i had known then...
- Crouwel0
if crouwel were right on that, medium and large format photography would've been history.
small depth of field, bokeh.. these don't come wih a ps camera.
rafalski
(Oct 26 06, 08:43)that comment has nothing to do with what i said.
large format photography has different features, like a "balg" (dutch word, dont know english word for it).
etc.
the essence is the same.
and i can get very sweet depth of field with my point and shoot. as long as you know how the settings work.
the essence is the same.
the quality differs on just few levels.
as soon as people don't know HOW to get EVERYTHING out of their cheap camera, they are not worthy to whine, and certainly not worthy to just buy a larger camera.