pixel pushing protocol?
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- imadesigner0
Interesting indeed!
At the (very large) agency I work at the designers do the design and then hand it over to tech to do the build - usually this all works fine, but in the past channels of communication weren't as good between the 2 camps as they are today. The best example I can think of is when a designer had spent the best part of a month designing a website for a very large client. The site HAD to be 100% HTML, but when the designs were handed over to tech, they took one look at it and said there was no way it could be HTML because the designs were too complicated/ extravigant - Flash was the recommended route. It all ended with a very pissed off client, and an embarased designer...Enjoy the weekend, it's sunny here on London!
- version30
you should have coded your own html css and this wouldn't be an issue. if all you can do is make a psd, you are in no position imo.
version4
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nosaj
(Jun 29 06, 18:40)------
that's your opinion. but if he and i were up for a job against one another, i can't help but think the fact I can provide css and html in addition to my design, would be a deciding factor in my favor
i'd rather have skills than excuses
- dijitaq0
what version 4 said
- mtgentry0
some places won't let you create your own code. The agencies I've worked for usually seperate the designers from the coders so everyone knows their role.
- version30
lots of complaining going on in this thread, i say expand your capabilities and the regular crew come in and start saying cock, get over yourselves, seriously
- kelpie0
no. you get what you designed. If the developer really can't do something (which happens) then they'll tell you and its no bother. Loose scrappy layout issues are inexcusable and hugely annoying.
- kelpie0
you should have coded your own html css and this wouldn't be an issue. if all you can do is make a psd, you are in no position imo.
version4
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nosaj
(Jun 29 06, 18:40)------
that's your opinion. but if he and i were up for a job against one another, i can't help but think the fact I can provide css and html in addition to my design, would be a deciding factor in my favor
i'd rather have skills than excuses
version4
(Jun 29 06, 20:27)you can be such an arrogant cock.
Maybe the agencies and jobs you've gone for are in those kinds of places and your css skills are needed and appreciated. applause for you maestro. In plenty of agencies the two disciplines are split for perfectly practical reasons, in my day jod, for example, being a good html guy is irrelevent at the sharp end of production and only really useful because I can liaise better with the development team.
don't be such a judgemental cunt.
- rafalski0
As a coder, I try to follow the layout as much as possible, unless I know the designer doesn't care/mind and I'm sure it'd look better my way. I'd be anal as a designer if a coder moved my pixels around though.
- skt0
"...get over yourselves, seriously"
version4
(Jun 30 06, 07:32)hahaha.
- rasko40
not if it makes a difference.
- version30
point made
- arylone0
as a css developer myself itry to be as pixel perfect as i can, and when i dont i expect the designer to ask me to change things (4px here, 6 px there)
A different instance is when, for accessibility reasons, i get to code using ems instead of px; in that case is a little more difficult to be pixel perfect.
- Engage0
Just because they are a coder doesn't mean they are purely involved in how something operates, but how it looks... its different if they are just say a database designer or something... If its not how the comps look then I think you have a case for getting changing made... If however your comps are unrealistic... i.e not using the correct typefaces, or spacing your verdana etc as it is rendered online... then he should probably either tell you to bugger off, or you should of had the conversation much earlier on.
- version30
you should have coded your own html css and this wouldn't be an issue. if all you can do is make a psd, you are in no position imo.
i get work because i provide the code for the cms to be built into, not just an image comp
- Engage0
or when you get a design that is exactly 1024 * 768... .thats always a good one
- skt0
If you pass a psd onto someone for coding (if it's realistic) you should expect it pixel perfect. If you, as a designer, have decided that the top margin should be 16px then you don't want it to come back as 22px. If it does, get it changed. But you shouldn't have to ask.
To respond with "you should just code it yourself, because that's what I do" just makes you sound like a wanker, again. Agencies don't always work like that.
- skt0
if you were making it to someone other than me, then well, I guess you might be right.
- susan-deaux0
The developer should be able to make it exactly like the PSD. Need a new developer?
- mistermik0
you should have coded your own html css and this wouldn't be an issue. if all you can do is make a psd, you are in no position imo.
i get work because i provide the code for the cms to be built into, not just an image comp
version4-----
so what - he / she isn't concerned with your skills.
- kelpie0
the ems thing requires serious communication, I've sat with a programmer for a whole day, with both of us fiddling around with teh code to get that shit to work. terrible pain in the arse but very rewarding when you finaly get to your pixel perfection...