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- NYNY
Another company wanting free work.
NYNY- "Hello architect I need you to design my home that is 4300 sq. ft.. No one on the project is getting paid yet but we'll see how you do and if you have the dedication maybe we'll start paying you."
Architect- "Ah hell no, nothing in this world is free."
If you can't pay there is no way in this world you'll become and industry leader. Money isn't everything but more respect surely needs to be shown for this industry and the talent that's out there.
End Rant.....
- ToxicDesign0
Here here, I remember a like while back Mr. Jason Kristopher made a post in NTB that was something like:
"Designers, it's time to get paid what you're worth"
It's been my mantra ever since...
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- digilee0
knob heads.
i feel disrepected when i get asked to work for free.
- exador10
its a ploy...thats all....and the sad thing is that it works on the youngns...hell it worked on me when i was in my early 20's and just out of school.....its got everything to do with taking advantage of young designers that are nervous and haven't yet cut there teeth in the real world....its a crappy ass tactic that undermines their confidence in themselves and makes them feel like they have no real worth.....
and it's true that if you tried that shit on a carpenter or any other kind of tradesman, they'd laugh at you....possibly right before they fed you your teeth.
but unfortunatly for us, this business has built into it a layer of absolute tossers that seem to thrive on fucking over young designers....
i suppose its kind of a badge of honour now, or a rite of passage to get used/overworked/treated like a gally slave while you're young, before you finally find a decent place to work where you're respected...
lord knows i went through it...i'd be surprised if there were even ONE person on this board that didn't have a story to tell about working for free or getting fucked over...
sorry...kinda got on a rant there...
;)
- fate_0
Is this in reference to something specific? Link please
- scransom0
a market research company interviewed me in the summer for a creative position but didn't give me the job because I'm "overqualified"
Yesterday, they asked me to design & illustrate a 30 page newsletter for $1200 ($40 a page..) Which is ridiculously low.
I can bash it out for that.. but I don't bash out illustration.You don't build a reputation for quality or stay in business long by bashing out shit work for tiny budgets.
- uberdesigner0
send their email address to porno spammers. here's the problem with 70% of businessed who deal with internet...they're 'business men'. this means that they more often than not that their only real talent is bullshit. they see you artsy people as idiots to be exploited. they congratulate themselves when they get skilled people to make something for them for cheap. the same goes for programmers. you asshats are being unfairly exploited by people of fairly high compentencies who happen to be nothing more than leeches. it's people like this who cause things like enron and worldcom.
- lighttocarry0
I posted that. It was not a company posting looking for free work. The posting was looking for collaboration. It got pulled, which was very disapointing...
- visualplane0
That's the kind of world we currently live in unfortunately. Most creative people are passive, and easily exploited.
- j_red0
i wish i would've turned down all those stupid small freelance jobs in school and just focused on tearing shit up.
If you are willing work for free you deserve to get ripped off.
these two things aren't necessarily related, other than that they are both in my head.
- lighttocarry0
Yeah, they are not related. You know all those projects that made all that money, like Flicker or Basecamp? They did it because they loved doing it and made money as a result.
The attitude that you should get paid for everything you do will end up making you medicore. I do project work for companies, I get paid. I do a photographer's site, I get paid. I go to work, I get paid. But I also work on projects that satisfy me in ways outside the financial.
That's who I was looking for. Not people whining about how they freelanced for free or for cheap or for whatever lame reason people try to scrape a buck or rip someone off.