FF ---> IE
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- winter0
have you tried a dotted blue/white gif (export index/white transp)? it'll look sorta transp.
- Crouwel0
lol @ flowbee
- Jaline0
Thanks for all the help. I'm actually just making them JPG images, instead of having them transparent in the code. So that the transparency will be fake, but you wouldn't you able to tell the difference in the final design.
- spiralstarez0
:-) I didn't want to sacrifice any quality in the design so I had to stick with tables.
- winter0
Hey I designed the webpage for flowbee:
www.flowbee.com
spiralstarez
(Dec 14 05, 15:09)
-------------------------------gave up on divs, hey? I told ya.
- spiralstarez0
Hey I designed the webpage for flowbee:
- blaw0
janne's last upgrade was to a flowbee.
- winter0
i am on Netscape 3 and it does not look good.
Crouwel
(Dec 14 05, 14:56)
--------------------------------...I wish there was a browser for my 16K 1982 Sinclair baby.
- Crouwel0
i am on Netscape 3 and it does not look good.
- spiralstarez0
Jaline - that's not going to work. PNG is the only thing well supported that supports variable transparency.
But I think what you have shown is totally achievable with the PNG. Try the pngfix script I posted, I've used it and it works fine.
Also, if you want to serve things to certain browsers you can do it with CSS
for ie
#divname {
background:gif
}ie can't see this:
html>body #divname {
background:png
}or you can specify two rules to hide things from only IE5
#divname {
background:gif
voice-family: "\"}\"";
voice-family:inherit;
background:png
/*only IE6 and Mozilla see the second one */
}
- Rand0
god, web design is a pain in the ass
- Jaline0
Okay, nevermind. Maybe I should convert the png's into something else while preserving transparency. Seems like the easiest thing to do.
- spiralstarez0
Tis true though that it's tougher using CSS and divs. I think it pays in the longrun though.
Jaline, what are you still having trouble with?
- Jaline0
arrrrghhhh
I give up.
- winter0
of course, sprialstarez.
i meant that's where trouble usually happens with me, but as i type this i'm sure it looks like a very egoccentric remark. sorry. not intended.
- spiralstarez0
'beware of frames divs and css'
there's nothing wrong with divs and css at all, they are what you should use, but properly.
- winter0
oops, i did not read through all the posts. I guess you fixed it by now. Nice stuff btw.
- winter0
run your code through TopStyle3 or PSPad (this prog is free) and apply the "Tidy Check". If you work through all the errors and warnings they MUST show almost identical. beware of frames, divs and css.
- Mick0
As much as ie may suck, it's still 80+ percent of your audience.
- spiralstarez0
BTW - gif won't work. I gif is either transparent or opaque, but not variable opacity.
You should be able to use the pngfix script here
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bob…
but it only works in IE5.5 plus. But I say screw anyone who would still use 5.0.
Second, if you are designing for web standards it's better to start in Mozilla. Mozilla follows standard rules, so if you follow them too then everything will work.
It's IE that nothing works consistently for, but workarounds have been sorted for all the major probs.
Plus if you are designing for web standards mozilla your design is more future proof as Microsoft is forced to slowly adopt standards.