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- discipler0
That's actually wrong, Mimio. An omnipotent being exists outside of time and space (they are a creation of his). And the Biblical belief is that God created sinless humans who had the choice of good or evil... the propensity to actuate evil. This is not creating evil.
- mrdobolina0
sure it matters. if you put a biblical bend on the story. it could not have happened any longer than what, 6,000 years ago?
so if many of these scholars are incorrect about the age of the world, what else are they wrong about?
Also, scientists try to determine the origin of things. Many of these scholars are working their way backwards to a prophecy that they already have "faith" in to be true. so it is junk science at that point.
- discipler0
Yes, that all sounds like an intellectual position, unfitt. But it's really just pseudo-enlightenment drivel.
Look at the science and then let us reason together intelligently.
- Mimio0
Sure it is, if you create "all things". The god has foreknowledge of the outcome and sets it into motion regardless. Just cause things bang together doesn't absolve the god from guilt.
- mrdobolina0
dude, fossils are fucking older than 10,000 years.
cmon.
- discipler0
dobs, there's plenty of geological evidence that demonstrates a young earth and rapid fossilization. Radiometric dating is terribly unreliable. But we've already beaten that dead horse here.
- TheTick0
Out of passions grow opinioms; mental sloth lets these rigidify into convictions. Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.
- mrdobolina0
the earth is older than that. it has to be.
- discipler0
Mimio, foreknowledge is not the same as foreordination. Theology 101.
dobs, release your comfortable traditions. It just may be younger than you think. There is evidence. Again, the "when" and "how long" are secondary issues and there is debate on this within both naturalist camps and theist camps. The point is though, it's an in-house debate.
- cosmo0
discipler u believe in Pangaea?
- mrdobolina0
describe this evidence without making me read 40 pages off of some link.
the issues are whatever the fuck we say the issues are. we all make the rules around here, you know?
- discipler0
I believe that the continents were once all as one, yes. That there were at least, land bridges to some degree.
- mrdobolina0
less than 10,000 years ago?
- cosmo0
wat about ice age?
"the last ice age ended about 10,000 years ago." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice…
- emokid0
dobs, even looking at it from biblical point of view, what most religious people need to realize is that its not all literal. there are metaphors and 7 days doesn't REALLY mean 7 days.
- mrdobolina0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eon…
is this all bullshit, discipler?
- emokid0
emokid, the problem is that the most recent evidence shows that evolution did not and could not have happened.
discipler
(Aug 2 05, 14:00)let's see/read some of this evidence you speak of. and i don't say this to prove you wrong but i am curious because most of the stuff i've read states quite the opposite.
emokid
(Aug 2 05, 14:12)i am still interested in this evidence you speak of.
- MrDinky0
than comes the nazis
- discipler0
oh yes, quite familiar with the "process" here, dobs.
Well, there are a few key things about the young earth...
1) The continents are eroding too quickly. If the continents were billions of years old, they would have eroded by wind and water many times over.
2) There is not enough helium in the atmosphere. the small amount in the atmosphere would have taken at most around two million years to accumulate. This is far less than the assumed 3,000-million-year age of the atmosphere.
3) Many fossils indicate that they must have formed quickly, and could not have taken long time-spans.
4.)There are billions of fossil fish in rock layers around the world which are incredibly well-preserved. They frequently show intact fins and often scales, indicating that they were buried rapidly and the rock hardened quickly.
5) The oceans are nowhere near salty enough. Each year, the world’s rivers and underground streams add millions of tonnes of salt to the sea, and only a fraction of this goes back onto the land. Using the most favourable possible assumptions for long-agers, the absolute maximum age of the oceans is only a tiny fraction of their assumed billions-of-years age.
These are just scratching the surface.
- mrdobolina0
sorry the link was bad, is this all bullshit?
Cenozoic 66 mya to present day
Mesozoic 245 mya - 66 mya
Paleozoic 570 mya - 245 mya
Proterozoic 2500 mya - 570 mya
Archaean 3800 mya - 2500 mya
Hadean 4550 mya - 3800 myaMYA equals millions of years ago.