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  • Fax_Benson0

    imply that Islam is a religion of violence and therefore that all Muslims, by nature, are not peaceful - in the knowledge that leftists will defend the counter-view, allowing you to reaffirm your view that leftists are the enablers of terrorism.

    well played. again. what have we achieved. nothing.

    • Is it OK for a Muslim to disobey or reinterpret the Koran?Morning_star
    • I don't fucking know.Fax_Benson
    • Well, it isn't. It is punishable by death as Muslin believe that the Koran is the actual word of God, unlike Christians and Jews who have holy books written...Morning_star
    • Oh ffsFax_Benson
    • ...by men. To deviate from the instructions of the Koran is un-Muslim. This is fundamentally why Islam is different.Morning_star
    • how anyone can defend islam or any other religion this day and age is beyond me._niko
    • You're right. 'Defence'of religion is folly. However I think it's necessary to 'understand'. Spitting fire due to ignorance is just as destructive.Morning_star
    • Sure, we should try to understand it but Religion is based on and thrives on ignorance. Not rational thought, not scientific evidence, blind fucking ignorance._niko
    • Niko, if u look at history there are a bunch of scientists tried to prove God through rationalism. Descartes is one, Omar Khayyam is another that I know of.Beeswax
    • several among greek philosophers. None of these guys are dumber than us. There's rationalism in the core of every belief. As of evidence,Beeswax
    • theories are a big part of science,from big bang to evolution to dark matter & they are all being debated because of lack of evidence but you dont deny them.Beeswax
    • religion is the science of human core. Everybody can find their own truth in it. Zen masters, Kaballah ppl, Sufis they are rational, at least the ones I know.Beeswax
    • because they have methods & evidence about the effects of certain practices on human psyche for centuries and it really transform lives. That is rational.Beeswax
    • Not rational is putting everyone who believes in some practiceor message in the same sack and label it "blind fucking ignorants"Beeswax
    • Atheism has become mainstream only in the last century, whatever we have now, science or technology wise, is carried to this day by those fucking ignorants.Beeswax
    • Athieism as you call it has been more mainstream now because anyone who denied the existence of God was burned at the stake._niko
    • There were the ignorant masses and the not so ignorant clergy and ruling class who knew that religion was utter bullshit but it was a great tool of power._niko
    • Now I also know that I live in a progressive country and have the luxury to think say and believe or not believe in whatever the fuck I want to. If I was living_niko
    • If I was living in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan or most other muslim counties I would't be saying shit. I know Turkey is supposedly secular and much more_niko
    • progressive than most muslim countries but the way things are going with Erdogan, I'm not so sure any more._niko
    • I love open discussion and I hope you don't take offence to any of this, I don't know you personally but consider you part of our QBN family and every time some_niko
    • fuckery goes down in Turkey (which has been a lot over the past few years) my first thoughts are is beeswax ok. At the end of the day if we put each other as_niko
    • humans first and forget ideologies, nationalities and religions, I think we might just make it a s a species. :)_niko
    • I like Beewax respsonsesmugwart
  • sureshot0

    Manchester Arena attack: 22 killed at Ariana Grande concert as bomber named as Salman Abedi

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/…

    • pretty fucking sad that everyone already knew this was a muslim. even fade assumed it was._niko
  • i_was-2

    Allah akbar, Islam is a religion of peace, we need you, you the leftists, stay on our side. No more bombing, we promise.

    • interesting take. you've obviously put a lot of thought into that.Fax_Benson
    • Im pretty damn certain Christians have killed far more people.CygnusZero4
    • I'm pretty damn certain that mosquitos have killed far more than Christians.Morning_star
    • and comets too._niko
    • ^^ Christians have pretty much matured out of that phase for several centuries now.Gnash
    • Severe lack of knowledge of fundamentalismfadein11
    • HOLY FUCK, ISLAMIC MOSQUITOESdetritus
    • HARK! THE CHRISTIAN DOLPHINSdetritus
    • —THE ULTIMATE BATTLE™detritus
  • HAYZ1LLLA0

    Absolute pussy-hole cowards.
    Invisible-man worshipping fanatical goat-fucking cunts.
    Dying was too good for them.

    But just to put in context the "interesting" "dangerous" times though...

    • Now strip out all the victims from internal/ nationalist causes...detritus
    • Yep - so truefadein11
    • Really interesting chart. Those attacks in70s are mostly done by separatist europeans.You can say we're living in a relatively peaceful period compared to thoseBeeswax
    • Curious about the difference between this chart and Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia…mort_
    • Mein gott, I didn't realise how much of a beating the UK took compared to other EU countries. +1 Ireland, I guess?detritus
    • < this just tells me we're too contentious a lot of cunts to exist within a civilised EU framework. Fuck 'em all.detritus
    • RAAR!
      *paddles into middle of Atlantic, alone*
      detritus
  • Beeswax-5

    The timing is interesting.

    Trump visits Saudi Arabia and Israel. Sells Saudis huge amounts of weapons as a big warning to Russia, Iran, China

    Then this happens.

    You must understand, in this day and age wars are fought this way, no real frontiers just terror organisations puppeteered by the countries that got already hit by terrorism.

    • I hear what you're saying but come on. Have some balls and bomb the white house, not 12 year old british girls at a concert._niko
    • non-linear warfare.renderedred
    • How is selling guns to the Saudis a warning to Russia or China?i_monk
    • if you want to speak about timing, this day is the anniversary of an attack on a british fusilier on an open street ..coldarchon
    • @i_monk if it's a warning to Iran then it's a warning to Russia & China. They have presence all over middle east and energy sourcesBeeswax
    • Yeah, and time ago UAE bought a ton of arms to Russia... this area is expending a lot in arms this daysOBBTKN
  • moogchild0

  • fadein11-5

    To some of the morons on here who like to dispute muslim leaders' reactions to these tragedies.

    • +++moogchild
    • You are right... Here is real outrage !
      Who care the dismembered bodies, when some fascists dare to dispute the reactions of our beloved leaders !
      gonzalle
    • Let's take out the candles, the soft toys. Let's light the eiffel tower !... Love is stronger !gonzalle
    • The truth hurts.fadein11
    • if you are implying I am not feeling the tragedy in a city v.close to my heart you are sorely mistaken gonzale. It will not divide us.fadein11
    • No dispute here, I just point out that your main concern is about conservative's reactions. Not about exploded young girls. This is your right. I respect that.gonzalle
    • Humanity...Glorious.moogchild
    • Are you being sarcastic gonzalle?Ianbolton
    • My main concern is with the victims - 1 quick post on here does not tell you how I am feeling. You seem more concerned about my post than the victims youfadein11
    • fucking hypocritefadein11
    • The kind of division brought about by these events is also a big concern of mine - hence why I shared the muslim councils reaction to it. I couldn't give a fuckfadein11
    • about the ignorant morons on this site but a little educating of them is a good thing no?fadein11
    • And showing them how quickly and clearly the Muslim council responded is important to me yes.fadein11
    • Strip arguments of politics, religion, why fucking kids?moogchild
    • FUCKING KIDSmoogchild
    • :(moogchild
    • Noone is disputing the tragedy - hideous.
      Have no idea why you would think otherwise.
      fadein11
    • Dude seriously, if your daughter got killed at that concert would you be on here saying "it's ok because harun Kahn issued a statement of condemnation"?_niko
    • Seriously, who gives a fuck about this moron? Where was he to help prevent this? Where was the community outrage before hand?_niko
    • Totally missed the point of the post. And don't call me dude.fadein11
    • I will say it again for you. There are a handful of morons on this site who equate the actions of extremists with any muslim. They also regularly state thatfadein11
    • there should me condemnation from the Muslim community. I was simply illustrating that there always is, every single time. Please don't confuse the horror andfadein11
    • tragedy of the event with the point I was making directed at a small handful of fools on here. One of the main aims of these attacks is to divide communitiesfadein11
    • out of interest, who on this page said anything of the sort to precipitate your posting this, fadein?detritus
    • because all I can see is your own flavour of paranoia, re: 'Conservatives' taking advantage of this, which is quite a disgusting reaction to me.detritus
    • and destabilise society. This often works with a certain type of person. When this happens it means the extremists are winning. Is that clearer for you?fadein11
    • and I love how you've defaulted to calling people who disagree with your worldview as 'morons' and 'fools'. Isn't that what you criticise Set for?detritus
    • @detritus. Take a look back at the Westminster attack comments. It's all there for you in black and white.fadein11
    • And you have also totally misunderstood my point as well. And if you don't think certain flavours of politician won't use attacks like these to their ownfadein11
    • advantage you many want to reconsider your thinking. And there is absolutely nothing in what I have said that should disgust you.fadein11
    • I consider people who consider all muslims extremists morons. Yep - happy to stand by that thanks.fadein11
    • oh, and who is that exactly? You seem to have polarised your own view on things, not taking into account any subtleties or shades of grey. Ironic?detritus
    • I am only going on certain users past comments which were pretty black and white. Nothing ironic. The point is clear if you disagree fine but I really shouldn'tfadein11
    • have to explain it - it was pretty clear.fadein11
    • I don't really see what point you were trying to make, but anyway, I know who you were attacking.detritus
    • That the muslim community in this country clearly condemns these attacks every single time. I posted it this morning to make it clear to a few people on herefadein11
    • who claimed this does not happen. What don't you understand?fadein11
    • or, rather, I'm not sure how posting <this makes your point.detritus
    • And why this would disgust you is what bothers me tbh. But moving on now...fadein11
    • Sorry, what did I say disgusts me?detritus
    • "which is quite a disgusting reaction to me" - your statement above after totally misunderstanding my pointfadein11
    • And what was that in relation to?
      Clue: Not <this.
      detritus
    • ah my comment below on how certain conservative politicians use terrorism to justify their agendas... ah right - you don't get that either. Or it disgusts you.fadein11
    • If you missed the last 20 years I can send you some links if it will help.fadein11
    • And which parties have been in power over those twenty years, fadein? Exclusively Conservative, or perhaps more than is within your purview?detritus
    • blanket defence of islam is just as bad as blanket condemnation. having said that, every fucking single religion needs to be wiped off the face of this earth._niko
    • This is what I dislike about liberals like yourself - the absolute beblinkerment to politics beyond your narrow interpretation. You polarise as much any.detritus
    • it is such that you then frame me as 'A DM-reading Leave voter' because I don't simply fall into line with your argumentation.detritus
    • That's where I'm coming from, _niko - a plague on religions and the religious, including this neutered and utterly irrelevant Harun Khan...detritus
    • lol - that was a joke but it obviously hit a nerve. my apologies. No polarisation here - it was directed a few QBN users (morons) who have made their beliefsfadein11
    • consistently clear on this site. And lol and criticising blanket generalisations and then doing one yourself in the same statement. As you say it's rarely blackfadein11
    • and white of course - but these idiots are openly honest about it. But feel free to continue insulting me if it makes you feel better.fadein11
    • making one*fadein11
    • Why do you think I am making narrow interpretations when these users happily make their beliefs clear. I am not making any assumptions. Weird reaction detritus.fadein11
    • it was a targeted post - not an "all Trump supporters are racist" kind of generalistion. Really surprised you are struggling to grasp it.fadein11
    • I'm not struggling to grasp anything of consequence, just your personal intent.detritus
    • or, rather, how you feel you're succeeding in making it.detritus
    • prey tell me what my personal intent is? Because all I was doing was educating some fools in how the muslim community responds to terrorism. I'm sorry itfadein11
    • bothered you so much pal. But now I really must move on as we are going in circles having to explain a simple message 3 times gets a little tedious.fadein11
    • Ok, but just to confirm - you're as guilty as all those you rail against for polarising situations and seeing what you want - and we shouldn't call you 'dude'?detritus
    • polarising what situation? what the fuck are you on about you tedious cretinfadein11
    • Seeing what I want? How does this relate to my post? It was directed at some users who make their beliefs v.clear. I cannot believe I'm explaining it to youfadein11
    • again.fadein11
    • Um yeah right.... the Muslim community reacts to terrorism by sending out public condolences, the dont respond worth shit.robotron3k
    • cue one of the morons.fadein11
  • autoflavour0

    trying hard not to allow my imagination get the better of me, but i find it really hard not to believe Theresa May isnt going benefit from this..

    fuck that whore

    • There seems to be more outrage towards Conservatives than the attack. Some people are just unhinged latelyDillinger
    • Fuck them, Fuck Ideology; FUCK US! not children...Sick of it and I'm a catholic for satan. Whats the end game?moogchild
    • not true Dilinger - unfortunately conservatives use tragedies like these to forward their agenda - the cycle continues.fadein11
    • There is no end game, never has been - the goalposts keep shifting. This will go on forever. One gang of cunts replaces another.face_melter
    • ^Right? I have no reaction; just a shake of my head for humanity...^moogchild
    • I'm a fucking Cunt...moogchild
    • how do you hear about this and think 'fuck that whore'? there is not more outrage towards the conservatives than the attackFax_Benson
    • point scoring, or accusing others of point scoring (same thing) is wrongulated.Fax_Benson
    • ..or constantly name calling like a child. You automatically lose an argument, when attacking the poster instead of the subject.Dillinger
    • fuck politics man...this world :( Death Not Fast Enough:(moogchild
    • ^ so trueDillinger
    • about politics not the world lolDillinger
    • World Politics .moogchild
    • "Leaders" knows what's best for us.moogchild
  • BusterBoy12

    What kind of fucking filth would attack a group of young teenagers...mainly girls. Fuck me this makes me sick to my stomach but enraged. My daughter goes to these concerts and now she has to worry about getting fucking blown up?

    Fuck me the world is a cunt of a place at times.

    • yupmoldero
    • Most likely homegrown dirtbag criminals doing it in the name of Isis for street cred or martyrdom. No amount of bombs dropped on Syria can prevent shit like thi_niko
    • How do you think British law enforcement will respond?robotron3k
    • With security theatre.i_monk
    • idk, deranged fan? there was that one guy obsessed with bjork. it was after the show, no?Squiddy
    • I suspect as well, security theater. The Brits don't blink at stuff like this but the West is at war and we don't realize it.robotron3k
    • homegrown dirtbags all have one thing in common. second generation immigrants who don't assimilate.hotroddy
    • large gatherings make me nervous for this very reason -- basically after the french concert situation last year. I don't think it'll be an isolated incidentshellie
    • especially since it gets so much attention and it's hard to totally secure huge crowds like that. People still have to get in/out of the building.shellie
    • STFU robo. Don't blink at this? Talk about things you know anything about you moronfadein11
    • its hard to kill an invisible ennemy...Bennn
    • Fadein, you have no shortage of opinions on americans. it's a little rich for you to admonish robo for doing the same thing.Gnash
    • Lol at qbn "discussions". Armchair activists activate!imbecile
    • @gnash - I love America in so many ways but yep you are right - I am not so keen on Christian right-wing Americans. As I am not keen on right-wing Brits (it'sfadein11
    • not so tied into religion over here). So if that's what you mean - you are correct.fadein11
    • How surprising, turns out a Muslim did the bombing.robotron3k
    • `^ https://i.imgflip.co…sureshot
    • We all knew it was a radicalised muslim right away - what's your point?fadein11
  • Beeswax-2

    I hope none of you were there

  • chukkaphob0

    Spotify Executive Chris Bevington Dies in Stockholm Attack
    http://variety.com/2017/digital/…

  • ArchitectofFate2

    So... I was at the Swedish equivalent of the dmv some 2-300 meters from the place where he crashed the truck, and the first story we got was that terrorists drove a truck into åhlens(the store) that there was a bomb in the centralstation subway and a shooting in fridhemsplan (where I work) the bomb and shooting where later denied as socialmedia fuckery. People were scared shitless. But just as face_melter I walked my 4+ hours home under constant "are you safe?" bombardment from wifey and friends.

    Then this happens: when I get home and check in on my friends from work, I see that my boss sent an email:

    "
    Good that everyone is safe. It took me almost 3h to get home. Not how we wanted to end our week.

    On another note sales are looking up so let's hope that we're in for a shopping weekend, 'coz then we're probably gonna' hit our numbers.
    "

    4 people died, one of them a fucking 11 y.o kid you cumguzzling squattermattress. And tomorrow åhlens is having a clearence sale on all smoke-damaged products. Just wanted to get this shit out.

    • 'squattermattress'. Jesus. Even i never go that far.detritus
    • well, thank my L.A. friends for that linguistic concoction <3ArchitectofFate
  • IRNlun60

    Bombings at Egyptian Coptic churches on Palm Sunday kill 43

    http://www.reuters.com/article/u…

  • fruitsalad-6

    After the Pepsi protest commercial, it did briefly cross my mind when there was mention of a beer truck involved in the Stockholm attack, that perhaps a young hip advertising agency had just taken things too far...

  • BusterBoy0

    Really sad news.

    But...I fucking hate the media reporting on stuff like this. It's almost as if they salivate as soon as the possibility it's terror related.

    Is there not a chance this was just the act of a mad cunt? Wasn't it just an opportune hijacking of a truck whose driver was making a delivery? Hardly seems the act of an organised terrorist.

    • you are funnysureshot
    • Why?BusterBoy
    • We had a guy here in Melbourne drive through a mall. Killed 6. Terrible. But he was just a maniac...BusterBoy
    • Not downplaying how sad and terrible this is...it's awful.BusterBoy
    • look up the timeline on this matter on twitter dude... you'll see the horrific pics / stories and arab muslims cheering for his act. dont be ignorant.sureshot
    • Sorry mate...you've missed my point completely.BusterBoy
    • I'll check out...all I am saying is calling these random acts by mad cunts 'terror attacks' just embolden them. Call them for what they are.BusterBoy
    • Yeah okay I get your point. its calling creating chaos and fear. And thats a bad thing.sureshot
    • Didn't mean to offend or downplay...sorry if I did.BusterBoy
    • I think sureshot is being overly sensitive. I completely hear your point BusterBoy. You're right, it could just be some mad cunt. Probably is just some mad cuntset
    • Even if its a Muslim, it's still some mad cunt.set
    • If a Muslim kills someone it's 'terrorism' right? If it was done by a white atheist it wouldn't even reach international news.set
    • A terrible event of course but in the scheme of things, absolutely and utterly inconsequential.set
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  • fruitsalad0

    this is really really sad:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-395…

  • face_melter2

    Looking at the pictures of where it crashed - it does seem, sadly, that they knew what they were doing. That corner is very, very, very busy - it is the main entrance for Åhléns and it also leads into T-Centralen. I walk down there all the fucking time :/

    • shit man! way too close to home for you.capn_ron
    • just glad you're safe. so sorry for families/friends of 3 that died.lowimpakt
    • Glad you're safeGnash
    • fucking assholes..that pic of the dead dog was sad.sureshot
    • anf yeag glad you ok matesureshot
  • face_melter4

    Back home now.

    After I last wrote. About 10 minutes later everyone went back into the salon/screen room and sat down to wait for news. A guy came in and said that they would start the film again and you can watch or wait in the foyer. A friend called just as it started up so I went out, had a chat, went back in and sat down as the trailers finished.

    Then something surreal happened. The film stopped, screen turned red and a girl came in - in silhouette and backlit from the light in the corridor - she looked and searched for her friend sitting a bit aways from me and said 'we're being evacuated'.

    A few seconds of numb comprehension and everyone poured out - the cops had taped off pretty much all around Hötorget and the centre where the crash happened and were telling people to leave the area. Choppers in the sky, cops in protective gear, security personnel - the whole bit. But no fear, no madness or frenzy - people were super cool and kinda just headed wherever they needed to go. The tunnelbana was closed, so I just walked home towards Söder, (got my 11,000 steps! Woo!) picked up some food shopping and now i'm in my pants drinking coffee and checking the news.

    A weird fucking thing, to be sure.

    And thanks for the concern <3

    • glad your safe.mugwart
    • USA or UK use of the word "pants"?fruitsalad
    • Life just goes on relentlessly, doesn't it? It has to, else all implodes. Be well, man. xdetritus
    • Yeah, people were nonplussed by the thing - more fucked off that their films were interrupted lolface_melter
    • my sadness goes to you n your country. be safe qbn brother!e-pill
    • glad you're safeKrassy
    • this is terrible man, glad you're safe as wellIRNlun6
    • Thanks all :)face_melter
  • face_melter5

    I was just around the corner from Drottninggatan on my way to the cinema when it happened. I saw a load of people running past and some in tears. Didn't see or hear the incident. Read on Twitter that a truck had crashed and thought of what happened in Glasgow.

    That was about 40 minutes ago. The film started and just now it suddenly stopped and we left the room - the streets have been cleared and we have been told to stay inside, away from the windows.

    Details and news are incredibly sketchy. I huess i'll know .ore when everyone else does :/

    • stay safe, manOBBTKN
    • sorry to hear and yes stay safefadein11
    • keep your eyes.. open. and stay safe pls.helloeatbreathedrive
    • stay safeloool
    • damn, stay safe.Gnash
    • I love how QBN is my go to place for up to the minute news and opinions these days. Take it easy man. Don't be a hero!!Ianbolton
    • stolen beer truck according to newsDillinger
    • https://gfx.aftonbla…Gnash
    • ^ doesn't look like a beer truckGnash
    • well I did use mainstream media and they are usually wrongDillinger
    • If it turns out to a muslim terrorist, then not only do they show contempt for human life, but beer too, couldn't get any lower...fruitsalad
    • It was a beer truck, from Spendrups. Kinda weird angle, but it's a flatbed with the plastic sides you can roll up.face_melter
    • @ fruitsalad he is:https://pbs.twimg...sureshot
    • ^ https://pbs.twimg.co…sureshot
    • well, just cos he's arabic looking, doesn't mean he's muslim. Or an immigrant...fruitsalad
    • yeah whateversureshot
    • Ugh. be safe!Krassy
    • i'm calling out on your BS fruitsalad. why not be honest and admit it's the first thing that crossed your little judgmental mind.hotroddy
    • fruisalad you are ignorant and I feel sorry for you.sureshot
    • I think it was first in mind for a lot of people, and fruitsalad is right - a crime against beer. And I'm a cider drinker.detritus
    • that is a crime. something we can all stand behind.hotroddy