Design is stupid
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- vespa0
I haven't read this whole thread but it seems like people who hate design shouldn't be doing it. No one has a gun to your head. You aren't being forced to work in a sweatshop like so many less fortunate people who are just as worthy of good jobs as you and I.
Bozilla, my job is nothing like what you've described. I make a decent living, work with people whose company and way of thinking inspires me, solve problems, user-test my design decisions, but I also get to solve fun problems like how to make something entertaining. I'm not making art, i'm designing, and I love it.
- winter0
ok. i'll try.
- Kuz0
Stupidist thread ever. Seriously. What a redundant statement. There's a million ways u cuda expressed ur grievances; instead of these blanket generalisations about "design". Guess u just wanted to provoke people. Anyway, seems to me u're obsessed with semantics. Get rid of the word and be free my son!
- dead0
yeh cinder! :)
- michaelx30
design = wit
- Bozilla0
If design became all about the money (I've never looked at it as art or shit like that), it has become just a job and nothing else. I'm sick and tired of people, "living" design lifestyle and all the BS. That is exactly why a design community can't fuc*king charge universal/higher fees for it's services, because everyone "lives as a designer" and not as a businessman. Nobody in today's world cares about art that much any more. It's all about SELL SELL SELL, and I have nothing against that, unfortunately majority of so-called designers today really doesn't get this profession seriously. It's, you either adopt or you live a renegade art life (like it was before). There's no middle ground. I think everything became so unprofessional with designers and that's why we sometimes have problems justifying our work. I don't care if I don't make a masterpiece just as long all of my invoices are paid and my client makes money so they can recommend me. It's business.
It might sound shallow, but it's reality.
- winter0
that was an ironical post.
- Chimp0
form follows function
- s-l-t-w-i-n0
one thing i don't get here winter.
20 days ago you started a thread named: design is life.
have you got problems at work during this 20 days? we should investigate..
- jg_20
amen to cinder.
- cinder0
OK, I've read some more responses.
First of all, any of you trying to say stupid art-fart crap like "design is you, it's me, design is art and love and life"
Shut. Up.
Design is a process by which things are improved.
By which things are made simpler, easier, more obvious, more useful, more profitable, more communicative, more streamlined, more efficient, more better.It's not always about making a message louder or more obvious - it's sometimes about becoming invisible and clearing the path between the 'listener' and the message.
I've been thinking about this lately after visiting the new Seattle Public Library.
It's definitely beautiful and definitely nice. And there are some things that are well-designed.
But really - the entire point of a library is diseminating information as fast, as accurately and as easily as possible and I dont think they did a single thing differently than any other library.
(although I could be wrong if there are hidden processes)The books are still in ugly booksleeves on boring non-descript shelves. There is little indicator what section you are in beyond the labels on the bookshelves.
Oh, and on the end of each bookshelf is a label giving you subject and the numbers - but in some of the aisles instead of the edge of a bookshelf, there is a square 'pillar' which the shelf is butted up against.
But guess where the label is?
It's still on the shelf! the edge of the shelf that is . . . BUTTED UP AGAINST THE PILLARso you'd have to peer into the 1 inch wide space between to potentially read the label.
How is THAT well designed?
It's not.
and the labels are very small. very hard to read.
why did they need to be small?I guess I'm starting to think that usability and clarity being below beauty and standardization is often a mistake.
We're standing around admiring how pretty this new library is but we still can't find the books we're looking for.
The graphic design books are in 4 different sections with no visual, locational or environmental cues on how to find them.
computers are spread at different points and if you find you're missing information - you have to go find one and start your search over.I guess I'm ranting now, but really - there is nothing wrong with design and everything wrong with you.
I don't think every designer has the capability to think outside of Photoshop - but a lot do.
and I think they need to start butting their noses into places where people tell them they don't belong so we can start making things work better.
- swollenelbow0
there is so much of that "art nouveau" going on all the time, damn i can't stand all those "art deco" rips...
get a new style already come up with something original...
- quota0
There has been a huge loss of culture and knowledge of design history since the computer. My girlfriend PAINTS all of her sign graphics. She is old school graphics and has such a knowledge of font design that she creates her own, on the fly with every client. She recreates billboard sized logos from a business card without projection and without a computer. That's the way it used to be done.
http://www.patterntology.com/ozmā¦
- cinder0
Design certainly CAN make people's lives better, easier, more meaningful.
Apparently YOU just aren't using your design talent to that end.
That's YOUR fault, not 'design's fault.
Remember, design is not limited to logos, websites and business cards.
Design can be used in processes, procedures, interiors, exteriors and environments.
Your perception is limited, not design.
- quota0
I think designers are caught in between two worlds. The world of originality (art) and the world of popular fashion.
We're accused of imitating if we see a new trend and assimilate it, and we're seen as 'outsider' if we create something different.
I agree with winter on the content aggravation.
There is so much imitation. Content, or depth of design experience is important. An artist or designer creates a framework of perception and then works off of it. Someone that explores the world and has something new to add to art or design, is more influential. Their vision is more likely to be original. They can bend themselves to interpret many different ideas.
One thing I like about fashion is how quickly it changes. I would never rule out the importance of a 'one trick pony' designer if they really nailed just one thing. I'd be looking at them again to see if they made more work.
I've learned to respect, listen to seasoned designers and adore flash in the pan designers.
- swollenelbow0
hahaha retro, you put an end to to it.
Thanks Brother.
It doesn't sit well in my stomach. hahah like a rotten burrito. "Design is stupid" lol
- JEWUNIT_0
Designers are stupid
Design is just what they fuck up
- Retro0
man, topics like these make me think their only purpose is to make the creator look like they're the REAL designer. They know what's right and wrong when it comes to design and everyone else is just cruising along just trying to be cool. I wish i was like you and knew the truth that design really is stupid! Damn!
What a stupid ass statement, "design is stupid". Gimme a break.
- zedvox0
i do think as designers we must be always ready to ...uhm design about the events that effect us and surround us..to communicate with the people out there
design is not self contained.i miss tibor :(