Bowling for Mr.Moore
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- Kuz0
not a shread of truth?
JEEEEEEEESUS
Man, some people go out a LONG way to discredit something that makes 'em uncomfortable. Loco-coco man
- k0na_an0k0
hahaha.
If he was so interested in the truth and educating the public and cared so much about getting his message out give the dvd away. but no. but my dvd for 29.99 while it only cost me 1.20 to produce cause i'm such a sell-out fuck i have it made in china.
- drake0
TRAILER!?!?!?
- swollenelbow0
"this aggresion will not stand."
- blackspade0
trailer!? or can someone confirm that a pirate out on divX online
if you so concerned bout paying for his movie, download it. simple.
- Kuz0
yeah well he does have backers and investors to fuckin pay off kOna_anOK, and he does need financing for future projects. So he makes a little money - man deserves it. Simply for pushing the debate.
- Bozilla0
lowimpakt, you seem like a smart man. Don't discuss with them anymore because you can't make them understand why their views are wrong. They simply don't understand and they never will. They are hopeless. Guys, just make sure you bookmark all that shitt you call "facts" and proof and show it everywhere as a backup to your statements. You will be laughed at for sure.
I bet that none of you guys left US for more then 7 days to get wasted on your vacation. And you are discussing how wrong someone's views are and how Bush does a magnificent job on foreign policy and saving lives. You have no idea how other people live in other countries and what's good for them. It's the same with Bush, and he's a fucking president..This country has no culture and yet this government imposes cultural changes on a 1000 year old nations. LOL, just incredible.
- lowimpakt0
Kuz, If is was actually bothered arguing you'd know all about it. I eat right-winger, crypto-fascists for breakfast
;)
- Bozilla0
yeah nicora2 you just live in your own dream world and never leave United States and you'll always have a very subjective view on things (sarcasm). Have you ever wondered why is it that the WHOLE world agrees with his movies and people like you attack him as being a liar and a profiter. Who gives a shit that he's making money, of course he needs to make money out of it, a person who raises such issues should be awarded. Try to watch his interviews and you'll understand what approach he has with these movie companies as far as distribution and profit. In essence, he doesn't make that much money out of the whole thing, the movie company behind it makes all the money.
But let me get back to some things here and not talk about idiotic things as money. I guess with most people attacking Moore that's the first thing to say "Oh he makes that money and all that". The point in his movies is NOT ONLY about money.
I won't go into it. Go live outside the US, see what other values are present in other countries and you MIGHT start to understand. Everything in life is NOT exclusively about money.
- Bozilla0
btw, my previous post..it does have some ties to Mr. Moore. He's actually trying to open people's minds and make them understand, among other things, what I mentioned in the previous post.
- e-wo0
if cultural changes consist of removing a murdersome despot, the age of the nation shouldn't matter
nations 1 - 1,000 years old need help indescriminately in such a situation as was (and to a lesser extent, still is) going on in Iraq.
calling us hopeless is not going to spread the tolerance and intelligence you are looking for.
- e-wo0
i agree with a few of Michael's beliefs. i really disrespect the methods by which he tries to prove them to be correct.
his beliefs are about "exposing truths." but, if he put so much falsehood into his films so that truth is the apparent result...it counterbalances his objectives (for me). that's all. let him have his movie.
don't blame Disney too much for not wanting to work with him (though Disney is a bunch of dorks lately).
- lowimpakt0
Bozilla, you'll find it is called argumentum ad hominem. The 'right', especially in the states are experts at at it. It plays a big part in the right-wing media and even in presidential campaigns. It downgrades the debate to a play-schoolesque shit-fest.
(yes, I just said shit-fest, so what)
- rabattski0
i'm not going to involve myself in this thread since it's a neverending story really but nodh: fact correction about hitler. yes that's what he did later on but he started by telling people what they wanted to hear and that started from 1924 when he wrote mein kampf. and they really didn't want to hear the truth at all.
- Bozilla0
e-wo, I won't go into discussion about Iraq and so on, I'm talking about enforcing the american way of life we have here. McDonalds on every corner, Wendy's, Starbucks and so on. Some cultures in the world have no desire to adopt that type of living, however media showcases them as horrific countries where human liberties are endangered. Do you see my point, and how everything seems hypocratic. A 200 year old nation without any well defined heritage enforces it's way of living onto other 1000 year old nations. They've existed before America and will probably exist after America if you know what I mean. And just a quick comment, the problem with Iraq is the sincerity and intentions behind "liberation", if it was really only that, I guess it could be positive, but we both know that's not the case.
- JazX0
M. Moore has no agenda withouth Bush. Think about it? He needs him to make fun of. :)
- blackspade0
no im sure he will find other things about america to diss once bush is out
F 9/11 trailer page... ?
- e-wo0
good point tfsmag.
he did get me thinking..even if it was simply to get me to research and find out WHY he's wrong : )
- nicora20
Bozilla: You have grossly mis-spoken, but that OK, I won't hold it against you. I could care less about the money issue as well. If Moore becomes a millianre off his movies, that's great, it's capitalism. I contributed to that in watching bowling. And it did have some good points, but most of his views are skewed in his "beliefs" favor. I have no problem with his new movies release, however it is very coincedentally timed. I will also watch this movie, but if it's anything like Bowling, I'm sure a lot of it will be one-sided with little research. He likes to get his opinion across, but he fails to paint a broad picture in doing so and the end result is a narrow view piont.
PS: The WHOLE world does not agree with him whilst the USA alone does not. That's the most ignorant and childish thing I've heard all day.
- Kuz0
do people still use the word diss? :P