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- quamb0
"you can say what you want"
am having a discussion here- not trying to throw shit at you.
and alot of the hip-hop i've seen live has sounded GREAT. Loud hip hop with live mc's cant be beat.
i think we're talking about totally different styles of hip hop here... it is a very broad genre after all.
"Very few people are doing stuff that's actually going to test time. "
test time in what way? seriously- you must be listening to the wrong stuff. even the popular labels such as ninja tune have many CLASSIC albums being made that are sure to keep playing for eons.
side note: i cant stand r&b singing.
- JazX0
Let me quote prome4heus:
"hip-hop is what it is,
you can't take it too serious musically." It's all about it's production. It's great stuff but comparing it to other genres, where artists actually play their intstruments is just plain silly. ;)
- kpl0
dude, of course hip-hop is received as actual music. wtf are you talking about?
- JazX0
with all that crap being said, I still like Hip-Hop and Trip-Hop, virtually the same concept. ;)
- JazX0
You can say what you want, but Hip-Hop isn't really accepted as actual music. It's creative and great outlet, but it's not me putting it in this category.
It's never what most people think anyway, studio wise, white engineers are generally the ones that get the full thick sounding Hip-Hop songs to come out well, not street thugs.
Those guys are so freakin' doctored. Ever hear a live performance of Hip-Hop? Man it's pretty bad I'll tell you that, unless they are mixing in R&B singers in the background that might actually have some true singing talent. Don't care what group it is.
Very few people are doing stuff that's actually going to test time. ;)
- quamb0
i agree, though im talking good hip hop here- not mtv or your local mc battle.
even for the mediocre stuff, you still need some skill.
finding those perfect samples alone can take a long time.
though as i said- to jump on a computer, 'stealing' samples and what not, then writing a hip-hop track isn't that hard. its the good stuff that is.
obvious being the likes of shadow, cinematic orchestra, prefuse etc etc. these guys are mega-talented and are throwing their heart and souls into the MUSIC not just learning how to sample or make catchy loops.
song construction is an artform in itself.
and just as in ANY genre of music, 90% of the stuff out there getting radio play is crap.
you sounding like an old grandpa saying hip-hop aint actual music jaz...
- JazX0
Half the Hip-Hop songs out today sound like MIDI synth with no effects, which makes me believe they were thrown together quite quickly, if you know what I mean. ;)
- JazX0
Yeah exactly and that's the point, 99% of what is out there is rubbish and 1% is good. However, with that being said Hip-Hop is as easy as learning how to use samples and beatboxes. Go ask any Hip-Hop producer out there. That's a joke. Musical ear, lol, actual musical talent in Hip-Hop is like saying fish are talented at swimming in sand in the desert. Read up on how long it takes these cats to produce their albums. ;)
- quamb0
jaz- not sure what your saying. are you drunk?
hip hop is not as easy as learning how to use samples and beatboxes.
this mentality sucks- just like 'design aint hard, just need to click a few buttons on the computer'
sure it is easy to pump out a nice beat and catchy LOOP (its almost like childplay these days with software)- though too construct a song and keep the listener digging the track after x listens takes skill & a musical ear.
- AD0
favorite rap group in the world is EPMD
but if I went solo my favorite MC would be me
- bebop0
beepa goin off like donal thrump gets checks, keep ma bases loaded like the newyork mets..
- AD0
i drink a lot of soda, so they call me Dr. pepper
- mrdobolina0
I dont know anyone who doesnt like 'electric relaxation'
- unknown0
i wouldn't pay 50 cents to listen to that crap
- pascii0
tcq are for resl. only kiddies don't get their flow.
- skonge0
Atitude? He tries to come off as a bad ass, but I don't see it. I'd rather listen to Wu Tang or someone who has a creative way of expessing attitude.
wankster. a 5 year old could come up with that.
- mrdobolina0
I enjoy pornographies and beastialities.
- kpl0
don't make me get frankiebaby.
- kpl0
it's the attitude.
I'd go on but there's already been threads about it and it's not like you guys are interested in hearing why.
- unfittoprint0
50 cent?
I would rather listen to Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer. Like I always do.