hourly rate?
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- shellie
what would you charge for an hourly rate for a very extensive flash site and a game to go along with it. its pretty heavy on programming and includes a web app for the client to update text in the flash site easily.
this would be for a pretty popular band in the music insustry on a major label.
i would say 50 bucks an hour. is that too lofty?
- kpl0
50 sounds fair.
- shellie0
yeah i think so too... since its actually a 2 person team that would be working on it. designer and programmer.
- JazX0
no 50 sounds right if not 55 to 60
- jevad0
hit them for 60 - and drop it to 50 if need be....
- shellie0
yeah. a friend of mine did a bunch of stuff for mtv at 50 bucks an hour through his old boss as a freelancer and his old boss still made a killing in profit so what he was really charging was unbelievable
- TwinLobe0
For straight HTML I usually charge $50-60/hr, but Flash work is almost always $75.
For a more complex project such as this I'd charge a little more... you can always go down if need be.
Don't sell yourself short. ;-)
- mitsu0
'bout a buck fitty
- shellie0
75 an hour would be like a 15000 dollar site. which would i guess not be so bad as a lot of design firms would probably charge that as starting bids for a project like this. sounds good :)
- mbr0
Yeah, for a site like that you should charge extra. For anything custom, like a game, you should increase your fees. I'd do that just because their inevitably will be million "I think I like that, but can we see 50 more?" type questions. I'd be very specific about what you will provide, too, as a game can be horrible if done poorly.
I'd guess (but I really have no idea) that 15k for the game alone wouldn't be that outrageous, assuming it's more than tic tac toe.
- shellie0
are you kidding mbr? i would assume it would be pretty alright for 15k as the total package. w/ games site and everything.. all the downloadables liek wallpapers, ecards, aim icons, and screensavers included.. with a pretty extensive site.
so youre saying thats probably not enough? 15 total?
- wonderwagon0
...$666 per hour, always.
love,
w.w.
- JazX0
hee hee, only from ww
- JazX0
I am hoping to be getting a 15K gig soon for a Flash-based Health Care site.
- 4cY0
15 k for a site like that sounds like peanuts to me.
but hey, if you go any lower: let's all join to kill our business and credibility.
- mbr0
Yup, seems low if you are comparing it to the whole profession. I've seen slightly more than portfolio sites go for $12k that required no programming, no complex actionscripting, no video, no news section, just plain and simple.
I've also seen simple html sites (that looked nice, but simple) go for close to $10k.
So, yes, given the complexity of the scripting involved with making a good game (assuming it will be good), the skies the limit.Just think, designing the look of the game could take that much. Little characters, space ships, scene settings, all designed before the scripting.
It's tons of work, without the site. So I would see this as the bottom of the price range and also assume that the game will be simple.
- shellie0
well i definately dont want to underbid considering we will be the only ones bidding for the project.. theres room for a lot of negotiating. so i suppose its better to shoot high and come down from there.
i definately dont want to kill the buisness ;) i just didnt know what the going rate is for stuff like that these days. i hear people bidding on sites for 4 and 5k sometimes.
- mitee_0
maybe you should ask what type of budget they have, that way if it is higher, you can say "hmmmm, we can work with that.", and if its too low, you can say, "hmmmm, we calculated the job at 15k." give it a shot, never hurts to ask how much $ they have in their wallets :)
btw, 15k is low.
- quamb0
yeah a cap point is nice to work with.
sometimes i feel strange charging hourly when designing- especially with the amount of procrastinating that happens...
ie- "$150 worth of work and all i've done is create some rollovers!.. oh well, need the money!"
- unknown0
sorry to go off topic, but i wonder : the other day on thread we were speaking about average income , and apparently yours in the Us were much higher than us in europe. so. and now i read that if you charge 60 an hours and sell a flash site for 15000 $ it's good for you.
My point is , i do'nt get it : yes we get lower salaries but hey, 15000 here won't get u anywhere, apart from a 3 page flash showcase : nothing dynamic, no dev, no tools.. : just the basic basic.. nice design of course : but basic dev.i'm doing a dynamic portal right now with 2 coders and some flash and the bill is growing to 48000 euros..
i mean.. how comes ? the contradiction is kind of interesting .. means we're beeen ripped off double down here to get lower wages and sell higher !!
:)
shite..
- unknown0
They will always be overly priced sites whne the agencies that are charging this are trying to re-coup money for their staff that have been sat around twiddling their thumbs (especially those 3 account managers!)