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    I dont mean to be like yurimon but I deserve this one rant, this seems like a safe place for me to do so.

    I think there is some interesting points made on dosage and prob more investigation needed on effects, vs people who arent vaccinated. its less likely you will have a big anti business study, but as soon as politics and money comes to the for front, the trust factor drops. Especially with current gov track record in the pharmaceutical dept.

    so far all the feared potential outbreaks effected people who were vaccinated.

    If you read the vaccine labeling it specifically states the strain the vaccine is against. in the example hpv vaccine, its one of 40 other strains.
    your chances of it working decreases with increased strain types.

    Other issue like someone mentioned, who makes the choice of when its over kill or if someone is over vaccinated? A demand for an authority over see ones body? if the state sees a public safety concern to vaccinate it would be a choice strictly made on vigorous safety studies?. what could go wrong? These guys dont lie or have no special interest capabilities to deceive for $
    we wouldnt have this freedom if that was the case to choose? em i right?

    Another issue, is there was law passed that exempts vaccine manufacturers from damages if a vaccine damages or causes problems. After this law all of a sudden you have mandatory vaccination push. Nobody sees the red flag here of what could happen if a business is exempt legally and you must by law get the standard over doses?

    Be careful what you wish for: I say this because once a "free" society starts to demand people to take compulsory action punishable by law, its practically over, especially if you want your body to be your property. that is ultimate freedom is owning yourself.

    So imagine giving an authority that claims to be all knowing and is practically smarter then you, because it bares the title goberment.
    What will happen in the long term if you lose your right to your body? practically thats what it is. Your inviting yourself to be a big lab rat. Think of what could happen if a company decides to change your dna via vaccine? either if accidental? who is responsible. is it defensible?

    we could claim public safety all we want.. in the end its someones authoritative choice that prob in the future will seem heavy handed and wrong because of the motives dont match the advertised intent.

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    • The notion that you as the consumer have the responsibility of informing yourself basically chopps down three quarters of this rant. The the last bit I agree wigilgamush
    • The you to an extent, and yet the gubment tells me i have to buy their mandatory health care with my tax dollars, but social equality is so womderfull rightgilgamush
    • Big brother wants you to hand over your personal responsibility to them. That's a problem. Vaccines though, not a problem, just a bunch of misinformed loud moutgilgamush
    • Mouthsgilgamush
    • http://www.hrsa.gov/…
      http://www.hrsa.gov/…      yurimon
    • oh for fucks sake yurimon, are you an idiot or a troll. there are people who have allergies to the vaccines, thats what the fund is for. there are people who argilgamush
    • are allergic to penicillin as well, so fucking what, is penicillin bad now too according to you. jeesus, such a reactionary yuri, use your headgilgamush
    • Your advocating one size fits all solution? common dude. your better then this. but they will break the law if not vaccinated.yurimon
    • there is an overkill of amount of vaccination? Alot of people react to what happened to someone they know.yurimon
    • If you observe people getting sick after vaccination, changes or developing conditions such as allergies. after vax. will you trust.yurimon
    • i am advocating personal responsibility and personal choice. if you want to make wild inferences about the effect of vaccines based on the existence of a wrongfgilgamush
    • or your observation is fake?yurimon
    • wrongful death compensation fund for people who didn't know they have an allergy, then you do that. nobody is forcing you, you can make whatever wild conclusiongilgamush
    • conclusions you like. the entire medical community says you are wrong but fuck them, a couple of housewives and former sales reps for big pharma know more thangilgamush
    • the god damned medical professionals. yeesh, how many times are we going to do this yuri. the antivax thing is so without meritgilgamush
    • implied causality vs. countless medical studies saying there is no causal link. you really don't have a leg to stand on palgilgamush
    • You dont know if its without merit, it needs an unbiased look to find out for sure.yurimon
    • c'mon yurimon, admit it, there's no "look" that you would EVER consider unbiased. The unbiased studies show vaccines are a good thing, btw.monospaced
    • but since they are well-funded, and come from top scientists in the field, you automatically assume they are pharma propagandamonospaced
    • For some reason, you seem to think the fringe studies are the most unbiased, even if they are full of spelling mistakes and anecdotal evidence.monospaced
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