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    What you having kids for if you need a full time nanny?

    Cuntpunch.

    • YOU WANT TO SAY THAT TO MY FACE?mg33
    • The answer is obvious, set. Many couples rely on both people to work and provide income. For many it would be impossible to have one parent stay home.mg33
    • For some, it's challenging also to just afford a nanny with two parents working. Avg. $17-$22K a year.mg33
    • Don't have kids if you don't have time to bring them up. Simple as that.set
    • lol @ "the answer is obvious". I understand the concept of not having time to raise your kids. I'm saying don't fucking have kids if you're going to...set
    • palm them off to someone else for 90% of the time.set
    • Who the fuck are you to judge, set? Do you even have kids or a partner?mg33
    • I am a human being with self awareness, therefore I have every right to judge.set
    • It's nothing but selfishness and self importance. Don't have kids if you don't have the time to dedicate to them.set
    • You're math is wrong too. Common arrangement with nannies have them watching kids while the parents are at work - about 40 hours a week.mg33
    • There are 168 hours in a week. That's 23% of the week, not 90%. But keep generalizing, please.mg33
    • I wasn't planning on getting into a personal debate, but I imagine if my words offend you then you recognise the truth in them.set
    • You're an asshole, set. You're literally calling people like me out about shit you have no idea about.mg33
    • You seem extremely touchy about it, so I assume you recognise some truth in what I say.set
    • Making such a wild accusation that parents who use a nanny are selfish and have too much self importance. Ignorance to the nth degree.mg33
    • I see no truth in what you're saying. I see a judgmental fool on a high horse.mg33
    • Why do I have no idea about it? I understand the concept 100%, thank you very much.set
    • Sorry, I really don't mean to offend you, but it's self importance because you feel like you want and deserve kids, yet you don't have the time to raise them.set
    • You have no idea what you're talking about when you make a judgement that parents who use a nanny are selfish and don't care about their kids.mg33
    • Because my wife and I do, we care about our child tremendously, and have her in the care of a responsible adult during the hours we have to work.mg33
    • I never said you don't care about your kids.set
    • "don't have the time to raise them."
      That is where you are wrong. Parents who use nannies aren't not raising them.
      mg33
    • Well, you're generalizing about all parents. Saying such parents are selfish and self important implies that they don't care about their kids.mg33
    • Part time raising. Which I don't think is correct. You have no place to tell me I cannot have an opinion.set
    • Oh, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm just telling you it's incredibly judgmental and not accurate for all parents.mg33
    • I don't doubt that you care about your kid. But if someone has to place their child in the care of a stranger for the majority of the day, 5 days out of 7...set
    • then it's selfish. It's because people feel like they deserve kids. Unless you can dedicate yourself to it, don't have one. My opinion.set
    • A stranger? No, we know our nanny very well. But I guess I'm just a shitty parent by your logic, because my wife and I need to work.mg33
    • To say I'm not entitled to that opinion, simply because you don't agree with it, is ridiculous.set
    • stranger = not the child's mother or father. You may very well be a wonderful parent, when you're there. That's beside the point.set
    • set, i don't know many individuals who have the luxury of spending 90% of time with their kid. it's a privilege for 1 parent to stay home. i don't have kids butbklyndroobeki
    • have friends who have em. i think it's harder than you can imagine. it's not selfish at all. one thing that i wish we had in this dog eat dog world IS to bringbklyndroobeki
    • At least one parent should raise the child. If you have to employ someone else to raise your child, you probably shouldn't have children.set
    • a child up in community rather than hiring a "nanny" so you're right there. but to say it's selfish, i think that's a misplaced word there.bklyndroobeki
    • It's selfish because you want kids. That's the only reason you have a kid, because you WANT one. If you don't have time to raise it but you choose to have one..set
    • That's selfish, in my opinion.set
    • I honestly don't mean to upset or offend anyone. I think the only reason it would upset or offend anyone, however, is because there is truth in it.set
    • We do a nanny share with our downstairs neighbors. Ours is 4 months old and theirs is 5 1/2. It's been great for them to bond with each other, and we save $mg33
    • Again, you're implying a nanny "raises" children. They don't do anything we wouldn't do, or don't allow them to do. It's not like some free for all.mg33
    • The values, educational focus, growth activities, those are all dictated by parents themselves.mg33
    • Please don't explain yourself, I'm sure you love your kid(s) and are a great parent with the best intentions. I just strongly believe at least one parent shouldset
    • be with them all of the time, certainly when they are very young, otherwise whats the point of having one. My opinion.set
    • but it's good to know you think I'm an arsehole and a fool who who doesn't have the right to an opinion, simply because it's different from yours.set
    • I disagree with the sweeping generalizations you've made as a non-parent. Some things make more sense when you walk in those shoes.mg33
    • Kind of like how you and I aren't in a position to judge how brain surgeons perform certain techniques, when we know nothing about their skills.mg33
    • Makes perfect sense to me already, thank you.set
    • So how do you feel about home schooling vs. public schooling?mg33
    • Are parents also selfish for sending their kids to school, and letting teachers shape influence them, instead of home schooling them?mg33
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    • that's a really good arrangement mg33, good on ya!bklyndroobeki
    • we had one when my daughter was a baby and I worked from home, she was only around for 6 hours but it allowed me to workmoldero
    • Thank you bklyndroobeki! It's working out really well. We're good friends with the neighbors, it's been good so far.mg33
    • set, do they have good paternity leave laws where you are?bklyndroobeki

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