Brendan Eich resigns as Mozilla CEO
Brendan Eich resigns as Mozilla CEO
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He made his personal beliefs public. He was selected as a very public representative of Mozilla. The beliefs he expressed regarding Proposition 8 turned out to be vastly different from the image Mozilla is trying to project. He was unwilling to change or explain those beliefs in order to better serve in his position so he resigned. Not a single bit of free speech was infringed upon here.
In fact, isn't this exactly what all you "conservatives" find is so great about capitalism? The company did something the customer disagreed with and they (customers) responded accordingly by not supporting Mozilla.
- what image is mozilla trying to project? let's be honest, this is less about peronal views and more about making money.SteveJobs
- I think you're over simplifying the debate here, let me refresh it for you, it's a dangerous path we're taking and don't come crying in the future when you're not allowed to think in a certain way just because other disagree with you http://takingnote.bl…GeorgesIV
- he future when you're not allowed to think in a certain way just because other disagree with you http://takingnote.bl…GeorgesIV
- and this that was posted earlier too, read it http://www.teamrareb…
GeorgesIV - Would you say the same thing about interracial marriage? Making it legal was an infringement on those who oppose it?hereswhatidid
- oppose it? Or women's suffrage? Or working on sunday?hereswhatidid
- I posted that link, George, thanks. I even read it!hereswhatidid
- Guess what? If I publicly express an opinion that people disagree with, I'll get shit for it. That's life, not discrimination.hereswhatidid
- have you read what I wrote, I've been on the side of the discriminated too long in my life to accept this kind of mentality, I want people who are in the wrong to be able to be wrong, not to be forced out, think about how many people should be forced out if we applied the same criteria to everyone http://www.qbn.com/t…GeorgesIV
- I want people who are in the wrong to be able to be wrong, not to be forced out, think about how many people should be forced out if we applied the same criteria to everyone http://www.qbn.com/t…GeorgesIV
- forced out if we applied the same criteria to everyone http://www.qbn.com/t…GeorgesIV
- i'm not opposed to 'getting shit' for my views as that does not constitue a discriminatory act.SteveJobs
- So other people shouldn't be allowed to exercise their right to free speech if you feel it infringes on yours?hereswhatidid
- it's totally the contrary of what I wrote, please re read it, I want everyone to be able to express themselves how they see fit,GeorgesIV
- I really don't see where you pulled that one from? I even linked the postGeorgesIV
- As long as expressing yourself doesn't actually cause any kind of action to take place, right?hereswhatidid
- I really don't know where you're trying to go, please re read what I wrote and tell me where you disagree, I don't see your pointGeorgesIV
- sorry I'm really trying to understand you but it evades me, be clear and tell me what you disagree withGeorgesIV
- I disagree with your overly simplistic "live and let live" approach and how you're applying that to this instancehereswhatidid
- live and let live only works if both sides agree to it. Not if one side is actively looking to stop the other from livinghereswhatidid
- in this case, proposition 8 was actively trying to limit the rights of a group of people, hardly the "let live" approach, no?hereswhatidid
- so the 55% of people who voted against it should be able to express their views because they are contrary to yours, for those of us who didn't always lived in democratic countries it's quite funny, live and let live and communicate don't segregate was my point, but I think it flew miles over youGeorgesIV
- us who didn't always lived in democratic countries it's quite funny, live and let live and communicate don't segregate was my point, but I think it flew miles over youGeorgesIV
- segregate was my point, but I think it flew miles over youGeorgesIV
- No, it just fell flat for me. I get what you're saying but it doesn't work like that in the real world.hereswhatidid
- you have to make them understand, and the blog you posted did just that,GeorgesIV
- exactly, and he chose to step down rather than have a dialog about it. He didn't take the live and let live approachhereswhatidid
- we don't live in the same world man, I live in the world where I need to be the best at everything or I won't get a job because of my skin color, I live in a world where I get followed in the store to see if I won't rob shit, I don't want my son to experience this same thing and I don't believe for a second, forcing my point of view on those who disagree with me through shaming will make them accept meGeorgesIV
- that blog said all they would have wanted was an apology or even an explanation, he gave neitherhereswhatidid
- my skin color, I live in a world where I get followed in the store to see if I won't rob shit, I don't want my son to experience this same thing and I don't believe for a second, forcing my point of view on those who disagree with me through shaming will make them accept meGeorgesIV
- yeah, and if you went on facebook and posted a comment about hating all asians, would you expect repercussions?hereswhatidid
- same thing and I don't believe for a second, forcing my point of view on those who disagree with me through shaming will make them accept me, I want them to speak their mind openly and I'll speak mine,GeorgesIV
- repercussions?hereswhatidid
- them accept me, I want them to speak their mind openly and I'll speak mine,GeorgesIV
- it really wasn't that long ago that people were honest about their feelings, I miss this time because I feel everyone is living some kind of P.C. lieGeorgesIV
- some kind of P.C. lieGeorgesIV
- so should black people have just waited for southern white folks to come around to their viewpoint that slavery was bad?hereswhatidid
- George's what about the freedom of speech of the so called SJWs and others who disagree with himukit2
- if a person I knew went on facebook and posted things about asian, blacks, arabs, white, I'd talk to him, if he kept on going that way I'd ignore him, I won't shame him publicly because he pov differs from mine, how is it hard to understandGeorgesIV
- that way I'd ignore him, I won't shame him publicly because he pov differs from mine, how is it hard to understandGeorgesIV
- There's no way to enforce absolute tolerance among everyone, best you can do I'd say we all have the right to debate, protest and hire and fire as we wantukit2
- debate, express our view and associate with who you wantukit2
- if you owned a business and an employee posted on facebook that they hate all asians, would you expect repercussions then?hereswhatidid
- is slavery and racism over? just because people don't express it openly doesn't make it over. @ukit who told them they couldn't express themselves or your misunderstanding me on purpose?GeorgesIV
- couldn't express themselves or your misunderstanding me on purpose?GeorgesIV
- That includes right of gay activists to boycott and ultimately for Mozilla to force him outukit2
- Or would you just talk it out with the guy while you're customers express their right to boycott you?hereswhatidid
- @ here, people I've worked with openly express their views on races, we're not kindergartener, ffs, I'm going to say for the 50th time I rather have someone speak his mind to me then hide it and not only sfw should be able to judge what is good or wrongGeorgesIV
- time I rather have someone speak his mind to me then hide it and not only sfw should be able to judge what is good or wrongGeorgesIV
- again, you're arguing that it's wrong to actually do anything about something you disagree with. Just talk and it'll work out.hereswhatidid
- it does work out, I come from a diplomatic family, talking things out does work out. if only you knew the number of conflicts that were averted by two parties coming to a table and talking things out without pressure or insults, you won't be saying this, anyways, it's midnight and I intend to finish some work before going to bed, so I wish you all good night sweet princes ** kiss :)GeorgesIV
- were averted by two parties coming to a table and talking things out without pressure or insults, you won't be saying this, anyways, it's midnight and I intend to finish some work before going to bed, so I wish you all good night sweet princes ** kiss :)GeorgesIV
- anyways, it's midnight and I intend to finish some work before going to bed, so I wish you all good night sweet princes ** kiss :)GeorgesIV
- heh, any members of your family devoutly racist or homophobic? you can't just talk it out with those who arehereswhatidid
- as a fellow totalitarian myself, I believe everyone who has "disruptive thoughts" should be sent to reeducation campsGeorgesIV
- I read lots of he shouldn't say this or that but not a single solution, what is your solution to this problem force everyone who has a different pov to hide, resign stay silent, strangely when your own pres kiss the end of the king of S.A not a peep from the defenders of freedomGeorgesIV
- has a different pov to hide, resign stay silent, strangely when your own pres kiss the end of the king of S.A not a peep from the defenders of freedomGeorgesIV
- defenders of freedomGeorgesIV
- saudi arabia is an entirely different subject matter. As far as what should be the solution? Exactly what happened.hereswhatidid
- The solution is being held accountable for your actions. Want to be a hateful bigot? You get treated like one. We don't have to sit silently by and accept it.hereswhatidid
- don't have to sit silently by and accept it.hereswhatidid