Brendan Eich resigns as Mozilla CEO
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- youngdesigner
Mozilla's CEO (and inventor of Javascript) resigns over his views on gay marriage.
- GeorgesIV0
his views on gay marriage, he donated $1000, 8 years ago,
SJW are fuckn modern day segregationist
- GeorgesIV0
and before anyone start with the circlejerk, let me reming you that someone got elected 8 years ago on the platform that a marriage is between a man and a woman, but change his pov when he realize it will help him get reelected 4 years after,
people still have the right to think what they want or intolerance towards other point of view is the new cool thing to do?
- ukit20
It does seem kind of extreme but I think it comes down to the fact that being CEO is different from other employees. You are representing the company's image, and most companies don't like controversies. Being boycotted or targeted by a campaign is the last thing they want.
- so they are all for acceptance until its something they disagree with, can you see the slippery slope?GeorgesIV
- It's a slippery slope both ways. Suppose he donated to a group fighting inter racial marriage, would you still have a problem with it?youngdesigner
- Is tolerating intolerance an act of tolerance or intolerance?CyBrainX
- Weyland0
Let's all boycott Javascript hehe
- #boycottjavascript,
fuck I can't save this message!!!
halp ehehheGeorgesIV - haha ;)
mikotondria3
- #boycottjavascript,
- detritus0
Bleh, I was hoping he'd simply ignore their blather.
I don't agree with his views or his historical efforts to support them, but I agree less with an unrelated concern very publicly bullying someone for their personal views.
As Georges implies, down that path lie bad things.
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Personally, I think they were just trying to score points to compernsate for their own internal grubbiness after the recent Justine ‘Going to Africa. Hope I don't get AIDS’ Sacco disaster (she worked for OKCupid's parent company).
- i_monk0
As the only gay in the QBN village, I thought the reaction – delete Firefox! boycott! – was disproportionate and placed too much blame on Mozilla (which had nothing to do with Eich's funding). But then I haven't been fighting for equal rights for the past decade+ as gays in the US/California have: Canada lifted the ban on gays in the military when I was 12, and enacted equal marriage laws when I was 25.
The thing is Eich doesn't merely have an opinion, he was working to make/keep his opinion law to the detriment of millions of people at a time when money from out-of-state groups (like the Mormons) was pouring in to fight their chance at equality. $100, $1,000, or $100,000,000 doesn't matter, he chose to fight equal rights for all.
Holding someone accountable for what they've said or done isn't bullying, by the way. Stop watching FOX for your news.
- the "only gay?" drama queen much?monospaced
- ;)monospaced
- i_monk...you summed it up perfectly :) couldn't agree more.exador1
- detritus0
I'm not American and I don't watch Fox, and yes - it is bullying.
You or I might not agree with the guy or his views, but whatever his views are, he has a right to them and to support them however he sees [legally] fit.
Going the path this OKCupid lot chose to is no more honourable, no more moral than their target's.
- I mean fine, let the world know - shme him, but it's got fuck all to do with Firefox.detritus
- Doesn't work like that in CEO world. Seen CEO's go for far less. So by the general standard it's a fair kopbabaganush
- ernexbcn0
A person that is willing to pay one thousand bucks out of his pocket to support denying rights to part of the population doesn't deserve to be CEO of anything in my opinion.
- ernexbcn0
This isn't bullying, this is just a lousy job by the board of directors who didn't foresee the shit storm that was coming due to that donation he did in the past.
Executives of such high ranks are scrutinised and stuff like this will show up, that's what simply happened.
- It's probably not the last time we'll see someone/company tagetted for Prop 8-related reasons.i_monk
- i_monk0
Boycotting is legal and nonviolent, bullying – the repeated use of force or threats of force to coerce – is not legal; thus boycotting ≠ bullying. You're parroting right-wing rhetoric.
- detritus0
I'm not parroting anything (as I implied, I don't exactly consume a lot of right-wing literature, despite what your presumption tells you), I just don't get why a corporate entity has the right to publicly shame an individual using its extensive reach.
Sure, target the philosophy, make a campaign, fund competing activist groups - just don't name and shame an individual for what is to many people a fairly middle-ground opinion that he espoused many years ago.
The question is not so much 'what happened here?' rather 'Where will this go next?'
- detritus0
OK, I take it all back - I've just seen his face.
- GeorgesIV0
I_monk I fully support your cause but as a gay person you should know better than everyone what it is to be shamed for the choices you make,
do you not see the double standard? do you not know what happen when people are forced to go into a direction they do not chose by themselves,
they will internalize it and pretend to agree with you but they will resent you, they will laugh with you and even agree with you, but deep down, they'll hate you because they have to live a lie.
I know tons of people who pretends to be happy with gays, but you get 3 beers into them and they'll start to be honest and say shit like, gay people should be allowed to marry or asinine bs like gay shouldn't adopt or other bs, but the same people will treat you as their equal at work, does it make them bad people absolutely not, it's just that they have a mental block that they perpetuate, and the sjw want to shame them into hiding it,
[Canada lets talk about canada for a bit, I remember when I lived there everyone pretended to be open minded but the racism was present, it wasn't publicly said but it was there, palpable under the surface, just look how they treat the natives..]
the slope is slippery if you go this way mate, we are probably the last generation that will have division in sex (australia just accepted the third sex denomination btw), the young don't care about what sexual preference just like they don't care about race,
maybe we were just born in the wrong generation, so be weary of people that pretends to embrace your cause, those will be the same person that will turn on you in an instant when the hype is gone
- ernexbcn0
http://projects.latimes.com/prop…
I guess he regrets that donation now, or perhaps he regrets that political donations in the US aren't private (unless you use a proxy that is).
- ernexbcn0
GeorgesIV what shaming? it's public information, not sure if you are aware that he received criticism a few years ago for this very same thing, but he was CTO at that time and people forgot about it.
It doesn't help either that in the public data of the donation shows his name and the employer...
- GeorgesIV0
ernexbcn, does he has the right to think what he wants,
don't want to start a debate here, but I live on a planet with 7 other billion people,
there will be people I disagree with, other I agree with,
- detritus0
I don't even have a problem with them starting up a campaign and advertising who and what has or hasn't supported which or whatnot cause... I just think it's way beyond the pale to dedicate a homepage to a high-traffic site to explicitly getting a third party fired for what is ultimately an opinion, financially-backed or otherwise.
Sorry, it's just a marketing stunt.
- ernexbcn0
That's exactly my point, there were two wrong decisions here:
- Brendan Eich giving one thousand dollars to support denying rights to part of the US population.
- The board of directors of Mozilla not foreseeing the PR mess this already was when he was a CTO and not thinking it will show up again if they named him CEO.I'm not gay but have many friends that are. How would you feel if you were gay and the newly appointed CEO of your company was so against your rights that was willing to put money out of his wallet to prevent you from marrying?
And yes, corporations should care about how the public opinion perceives them, the CEO is the most visible actor so his public affairs are related to the company.
- ernexbcn0
This happened right after the was named CEO:
https://twitter.com/chmcavoy/sta…
https://twitter.com/zbraniecki/s…
https://twitter.com/soletelee/st…
