Star Wars Episode VIII
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- CygnusZero4-1
- MOTHER OF CHRIST. So many goosebumps. That poster is... just... FUCK, I love it.elahon
- http://imgur.com/RJq…Eighty
- ^ did those guys like force awakens? i know they did those epic prequel hating youtube review vids. never saw what they thought about tfa, or rogue oneCygnusZero4
- basically, luke is yodasince1979
- I can't wait to hear him say "I am your father"!Gucci
- weak... again with those actors ... no thanks.elohelien
- teasers are now 2:12 long?Bennn
- Poster looks like fan art.DRIFTMONKEY
- i love the new characters in star wars. kylo was a little bitchy. hopefully he is more of a nasty sith in this one.CygnusZero4
- rey, finn and poe were all greatCygnusZero4
- Can't stop hearing jokers voice....pango
- zzzzPonyBoy
- Yeah, hmmmmm...no. Like Fast and the Furious, too many of them.Maaku
- Yeah, but spread over 40 years, not several years. Plus Star Wars isn't absolute shit.CyBrainX
- it's all about the spin offs now - they killed this trilogy with the v.average kids movie Force Awakens.fadein11
- funny, the current Furious film is currently getting great reviewssince1979
- currentsince1979
- theyre all kids moviesCygnusZero4
- Yeah I found this to be underwhelmingcannonball1978
- Whatever! I'm watching it.sea_sea
- I will be watching... yep all kids movies but the saga has a ling history of kids and adults enjoying together. force awakens was 100% a disney version of SW.fadein11
- yeah, its for adults too obviously, but they were made for 12 year olds first and foremost, like lucas said yesterday at celebrationCygnusZero4
- so aspects of them are supposed to be ridiculous. corny puppets n shitCygnusZero4
- I know that - I'm a big fan. I love that element - Force Awakens felt like a parody. Rogue One didn't. And this latest trailer is v.dull. But that may be a goodfadein11
- sign. At least I won't build myself up this time and then leave the cinema gutted.fadein11
- Im glad kylo loses the mask. he's better as adam driversofakingback
- I'm an adult and have enjoyed the new SW films. Also nice teaser trailer - gave away nothing!inteliboy
- Congratulations on enjoying the worst SW movie since The Phantom Menace.fadein11
- sci fi fairytales for children, i hate star warsdrgs
- grumpy fuckersinteliboy
- opinions that differ = grumpiness - congrats on your ridiculous outlook on things.fadein11
- Luke is pissed!futurefood
- since19797
Great thrill ride. Johnson pulled it off.
Spoilers:
Loved that Boba Fett is back, I always knew he would survive the sarlacc creature from Jedi
The Leia lightsaber battle was okay, Fisher looked slow with the moves but it worked well enough
Luke turning to the dark side was totally predictable but sets up the next chapter.
JarJar/Smoke situation seems kinda forced but whatever. We will wait til the final chapter
Finn dies.- Wait, is the JarJar thing real? IDGAF about a fucking Star War, and won't be watching this movie. But if JarJar is back, I'm tuning in.garbage
- Haven't seen it yet, I'll be honest a little annoyed to come here and see spoilers. But Luke turning to the dark side turns kind of cool.qoob
- Also Finn...annoying character. Glad they killed him off!qoob
- Now just got to avoid FB and Twitter until I see it this weekend lolqoob
- LOLZelahon
- FLOLsea_sea
- What about the skinny Jabba. Kind of annoyed they did that.cannonball1978
- Mace Windu killed it thosince1979
- lelDRIFTMONKEY
- kona7
My son and I just got back from the 3D imax showing.
I thoroughly enjoyed it and at times felt like a kid again.
Bonus points for making me exclaim "NO WAY" more than 3 times.
- the best part of the film was the fact I could take my son to see a star wars film!mugwart
- Totally agreekona
- sweet!
can't wait to see it. I've been avoiding all trailers and any information on the last few episodes and it's way better going to see them knowing nothingMiguex - No way? At the tittie milk scene? The 3 lessons scene or the island care takers?Hayoth
- lol Hayoth. My son gave me the most puzzling look and I said "It's like cow milk" and he just goes "oh, it was milk." fuck me he's 8. How does he know this stufkona
- ^ hahaha blame netflix!mugwart
- prophetone3
- he jarjar'ed us again!futurefood
- haha!PonyBoy
- Lucas is a good man. I have no issues with him.since1979
- I just wish someone had the balls to tell him he writes the worst dialogue.monospaced
- THX1138 is a super great movieBennn
- He hides the Boba Fett toy prototypes in his neck pouch.bezoar
- Lucas only wrote A New Hope in the 1st trilogy. Empire had great dialogue.fadein11
- he must be cracking up with how bad this has goneCygnusZero4
- I know that fadein11, nobody said otherwise. Now, who wrote episodes 1-3?monospaced
- you said Lucas wrote bad dialogue? no? he wrote 1 film in the original trilogy.fadein11
- prequels dialogue is actually way better than 7 + 8 though. Force Awakens is an embarrassing mess of bullshit dialogue and fake nostalgiafadein11
- I disagree. I felt the dialog in the prequels was awful. I also have the opinion he's not really a good writer at all, especially with dialogue.monospaced
- lol, as if he's known as a screenwriter... he created concept cinema. he's writes stories, worlds etc. he's never been known as a great screenwriter.fadein11
- Raiders of the Lost Ark? you do know he pretty much created that concept?fadein11
- and everyone has had the balls to tell him he writes bad dialogue, that's why he rarely does write it.fadein11
- love you though mono :)
but come on, force awakens is a crock of shit compared to a good SW movie like Rogue One.fadein11 - all the best with your new arrival if he arrives before we speak again. Best Xmas present ever :) Have a great festive season.fadein11
- lol, you're hilarious ... I didn't say Force was better, or anything else you're saying. I only think he's not that good of a fucking writer.monospaced
- sure he's got great ideas, and I love many of his films, but it's my opinion his dialogue is shit (corny, sure, funny, sometimes). don't act like I can't say itmonospaced
- it's your opinion he's good ... fine, but you need to back offmonospaced
- lol. you said "I just wish someone had the balls to tell him he writes the worst dialogue."fadein11
- he is universally regarded as a bad dialogue writer and director of actors. everyone has said this, for the last 30 years. I must have missed the point.fadein11
- jesus I am not personally attacking you mono. it's just a silly statement.fadein11
- the best SW films had nothing to do with Lucas as screenwriter.fadein11
- dude, if he's regarded as bad, then there's really nothing wrong with what i said, is there? you literally have no reason to arguemonospaced
- I felt like nobody told him that during the process, and to me that's painfully obvious. There's nothing silly about what I wrote. It was just a thought. CHILLmonospaced
- you're getting all worked up over nothingmonospaced
- I'm really not lol, you said you wished someone had told him, but he clearly knows that as he rarely ever wrote a screenplay.fadein11
- Lucas is my hero, leave him alone hahafadein11
- sorry if I came across angry, just a little bit protective :)fadein11
- Lucas isnt the worst when it comes to dialogue but he's no Woody Allensince1979
- look, it was a goddamn joke okay? I didn't assume he had been told ... considering he made a career of shit dialogue ;) MY BADmonospaced
- btw, I'm a fan of his work ... not all of it, but the good stuff for suremonospaced
- okay :)fadein11
- NBQ003
Lol. I hope these Collider Deepfakes of George Lucas never end.
- “We should make another picture.”
Harrison: “George, I don’t think so.”
George: “I’ll give you $40 million”.
LolNBQ00 - these deepfakes are cray.utopian
- Lollllfuturefood
- HAHAHAhaga
- holy shit, I lost it at the 3 minute mark, BUBBA? BOBBA? BOB BOBBA FET
how high are you right now?ernexbcn - “They’re not paying me anything. I’m bored, got nothing else going on’’ lolNBQ00
- “We should make another picture.”
- inteliboy0
I liked this new Star Wars movie. Is pretty fun and has some epic star warsy moments.
Surprised by all the haters. This new one was dealt a bad hand and pulled off the impossible imo (just). Don't think the problem is this film - it's the fact that the one before completely fucked the whole trilogy over by having zero character development, no chemistry between characters, killing off the main villain, killing the main Skywalker, ending with zero cliffhangers and then sadly having Carrie Fisher pass away. Yikes. Weirdly there's a bunch of critics I read and listen to defend the shit out of that Last Jedi movie. Boggles my mind.
- Superman vs Batman writer on Rise of Skywalker. Need I say more? The first half of the movie is utter crap. Worse than Last Jedi imo.NBQ00
- almost nobody care what kind of hand they've been dealt. they just don't like the movie.pango
- Oh well. Got a bad wrap imo. Kinda loved a lot of it. But yeah, last Jedi hasn't aged well at all - is trash.inteliboy
- I really loved it. No joke. Had a great time watching it. Last film is better cos of this one.robthelad
- @inteliboy +1Krassy
- Ya, if Lea died in the last star wars, why was she alive in this?Hayoth
- The Battle for Endor is still the best star wars movie.monNom
- @Hayoth The Force awakened her. LOLKrassy
- Oh. O guess I missed that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Hayoth
- @Hayoth because Money.helloeatbreathedrive
- ya they mary poppin-ed her back to live.pango
- utopian2
- nice bootsinteliboy
- pretty amazing for basically only being famous for 1 thing... from 40 years ago.CygnusZero4
- ...with that 1 thing being the most iconic character in the history of ever.MondoMorphic
- pretty amazing for basically only being famous for 1 thing... and also SKIPSprophetone
- respectKrassy
- its about timedocpoz
- kona0
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ok. so it's obvious kylo and rey are brother and sister correct?luke said he was training a few kids to be jedi and ben was one of them. when luke confronted ben, ben brought his hut down on luke, and thinking luke had turned (or the jedi were bad) burned the place down, stole the millenium falcon, and headed off to jakku to drop off his sister whom he wanted as far away from the jedi and/or siths as possible. it explains why the falcon was on jakku and helps explain why ben has a pretty obvious soft spot for her.
then, ben took the remaining jedis in training to the dark side. snoke knows ben and rey are brother and sister and it's why he could connect the two of them maybe? also why ben killed snoke to save his sister and try to get her to join his side. I think ben wanted to kill snoke anyways because he was a big bully and this was just icing on the cake.
the guards they fought were the other jedi ben took from training which is why they fought so well.
all of this leads up to the inevitable.... "Rey... I AM your brother" but it will sound like this
right?
- oh comon youtube.
@0:57kona - nahhsince1979
- too easy?kona
- In the flashback of Rey being sold, she was only about 5 years old and had lived on that junk planet her whole life I think.PhanLo
- I hope they are not related. I reckon Rey will be used to move the story away from the skywalkers.thumb_screws
- I think Rey will have an origin more like Anakin/Vader, come from nothing.thumb_screws
- ...but then kylo mentiond her parents were drunks and gamblers. Could be a dig at Han if they are bro & sis?thumb_screws
- I want Kylo and Rey to have steamy sex and then battle when he refuses to turnsince1979
- Or maybe she turns bad for the sex but then realizes her mistake but gets preggosince1979
- If she goes bad for the sex and gets Preggo, then goes back to good. Has a mini kylo Rey, does this make mini kylo Rey inherently dark side?thumb_screws
- he becomes jarjarsince1979
- When she asks the mirror to show her parents and it shows her, I thought of Anakin and the way he was conceived, but it's probably not that.sofakingback
- So if they're brother and sister, Leia and Han just sort of forgot they had Rey?ETM
- Han’s love child? He probably has a few dotted around the galaxy.thumb_screws
- Doubt it. Nobody seems to recognize Rey.pango
- Vulcan Mind-Wipedkona
- Luke is gayi_was
- Agreed.since1979
- If not gay then asexual.since1979
- Even if she was Han's love child, Leia has the Skywalker genes, not Han.ETM
- oh comon youtube.
- thumb_screws2
I really dug it. I like where it’s going. Really want to watch it again.
Spoilers
The silence hyperspace smash, fark that was amazing.
The snoke room fight scene was beautiful.
Ghost Luke v Kylie reminded me of the maul v keno I fight in rebels.
- Kylie like in Kylie Minogue?!?!?!oey
- Except Luke and Kylo didnt actually fight. There was no lightsaber fights in this movie.CygnusZero4
- Kylie Minogue/ kylo ren I get them mixed up.thumb_screws
- Where is this franchise going?antonyjwhite
- Luke died?ok_not_ok
- Kylie Jenner SoloHayoth
- Watched it again and liked it much more the second time.thumb_screws
- since19795
This movie has really stayed on my mind for the last couple of days. That makes it a great film in my eyes.
I think it's a lot deeper than a childish sci-fi opera. It plays with the middle grey-area of light and dark much more than any Star Wars movie to date. Yoda and Kylo share the same F it attitude towards structure, yet are on totally different sides. Luke struggled with darkness himself , he almost killed Han's kid on an impulse! Being a hermit is not easy on the psyche.
Poe's impulsiveness made him think he was a hero, but he got so many killed...and for what? Is he Trumpy?
This is going down as one of the great Star Wars films of all time from an intellectual standpoint.
- I can't wait to see it. Hopefully I get a chance before my son is born.monospaced
- oh damn, congrats and good luck!jaylarson
- agreed.inteliboy
- sofakingback0
Also, what was the point of Finn’s meeting of Rose and side mission? It lead to nothing right???
It felt like there were a lot of these moments... I just watched it so I’m trying to think if I missed something there... the force sensative kid in the end? Thats the reason?
- the point was failuresince1979
- hmm... kinda lame.sofakingback
- yeah failure. over and over. the rebelion whittled down to a handful of people... leading us to ep IX.inteliboy
- Not everyones a winner, dudesince1979
- It was realistic. Sometimes life is pointless.yuekit
- well, thats all fine. But when they force it into the story like that it's just odd.
You're on the run, can't escape but you have squeeze in a side mission???sofakingback - Escape undetected. Have an adventure that has nothing to do with the story... just to echo what Yoda said already made clear? mmmmm... ok.sofakingback
- Fanboys always talk about Empire being great. Did they just go for that mood? So the next one can have woks again?PhanLo
- it felt nothing like Empire, a SW film like Empire won't ever happen on Disney's watch.fadein11
- It's point was to remind us all that meat-eating rich people are bad (and also to set up broom boy Jedi for Johnson's new batch of movies)MondoMorphic
- detritus1
It was ok. I think.
Problem for me was I didn't eat all day then sped-drank two ciders and had a joint before I got in, then drank two more ciders whilst in there, went for three very long and bladder-destroying toilet sessions and raised my partner's significant capacity for ire.
One of the main characters had terrible CGI and there was quite a lot of unnecessary shop-horning of second-tier characters in, but what the hey, it's star wars and much more in line with the original trilogy, so all good here.
Agree with the points made above about who should've died and who shouldn't, but I'm not going to lie - I whooped internally when Leia did that ridiculous thing and during the bombing run and ... yeah, it was fun.
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What I REALLY liked was the return to ridiculo-tech - the idea of WW2-era physics at play on inter-stellar capacity space ships and stuff... I mean - a bombing run? Ships being out of reach of .. why? It's space ffs, not much out there to stop projectiles! :)
- Oh, and whilst there was one too many attempts at humour, perhaps, I loved that interaction between Finn and Hux :)detritus
- *shoe-horning, obviously... although with the obvious underpinning commercial reasons for their inclusion, perhaps shop-horning's not far off...detritus
- lol @ridiculo-tech... I agree with you on thisOBBTKN
- AT-ATs are the best example of this... all that antigrav and they build clumsy slow walkers. Didn't care when little though ha.fadein11
- I agree with you on these. To be fair one of those characters having terrible CG was due to ... well timing!mugwart
- I'm guessing it was all CG those parts or he/r make up artist needs more training!mugwart
- and I liked Finn in this film.mugwart
- ach't, I meant 'Poe and Hux' not Finn!detritus
- the Poe & Hux comedy routine was ill timed, what was needed was tension for that opening sceneBluejam
- ahr forgot about that bit. I liked that bit as well.mugwart
- LOL at detritus trying to hit Star Wars like he's 18 again with the cider and doobie.microkorg
- I've always drank and smoked for the cinema — the older I get the harder I find it to sit still for 2-odd hours staring at a screen.detritus
- ..he says, staring at a different screen for 8 hours a day...detritus
- mugwart1
.... Watched it. There is nothing better in the world in when a new edition to a film series that meant so much to you as a child and you get the chance to take your own kid whom is now a fan. Music started then the logo came up. Son hugged - it was a treasured moment...
That said TERRIBLE WRITING/ Directing, great film-making but fucking hell you could hear the Disney committee board members tear at what was an interesting idea.
I enjoyed the long length but fucking hell it was repetitive with the last minute saves.So many major grips but main one was how they handled the political correctness. Should samurai's/ Jedi's be all white ... no, should they be of the universe (black, asian, female, of alien origin) fuck yeah of cause. Do I care, only with the quality of character arc. They were too busy ticking committee PC boxes that some characters whom happened to be were left lifeless.
Why cant they just be well written and why only the good side but all the baddies just White or Japanese. Come one.
The way the men were portrayed rolled my eyes. I don't see this in real life so why is it so hyped up on the screen?Why are Rai and Kylo Ren so powerful compared to Luke and Darth?
Laura Dern - fuck yeah. Obvious death/ character arc but fuck yeah. A character that should have been left alive. Why couldnt a droid stay back?
I nearly cried when Disney wrote out my childhood hero in savior of that weak limp character Rai. Why ... the only reason I could think of was she was all powerful "female" (marked as PC not any feelings I have against females) she didn't need training cause she had a dream once ... cause those light sabers are so easy to wield ... Luke had depth, history and a life left to live. I really feel cheated.
Disney makes one off book ended films that for some reason are loved. Star Wars was a set of films that actually meant a damn to people. They have a life.
Luke was fucking bad arse and still needed.
The writing mirroring Empire was so obvious they even mocked it "...Salt" "they really hate that ship".
Chewee becoming vegan was funny -- those cute dodo's were not needed. Nor was ice bambi - fuck off Disney selling push toys.
I also found this instantly hypercritical, that evil arms dealer city looked incredibly like Cannes and the people stereotypical film makers. Cameo from Theroux made me think directly of Hollywood (his role in Mulholland Drive). But the rebels were fighting for the kiddies, to stop these evil slave drivers exploiting the kids... the same as Disney's sweat shops... left me dirty.
Smok was a joke, "I can read his mind". Jedi's can sense killing intent.
Star Wars was practically stolen from the greatest film maker of all time. The world benefited from it million fold. I didn't see film makers telling stories any more, I just see committees selling products and hypocrisy.
I sound so cynical. Where is the love of story telling? Making people laugh honestly not over sarcasm. Touching people's hearts with love,romance and above all humanity. Giving people a sense of wonder. This is a cooperate commitee making films. We are stuck with this director/writer for another 3 films. Can't we have Gareth Edwards?
Turned into a rant! VFX was great though ;-)
- fuck that was a long rant! I'm a rather passionate fella!mugwart
- You think Rey is a weak / limp character? Wow. Also, remember it still IS a kid's movie, so our adult grudges may just be out of timecolin_s
- Curious about your criticisms of Johnson though; I thought his direction was spot on, if the writing was just a bit off / joke heavy at timescolin_s
- The film had no voice. It felt more of a commitee around a war room arguing about toy sales.
There was no director. Rogue one had a director, it had a voice.mugwart - He directed the camera better than JJ. Acting was better than JJ. Jokes were off and not needed so much. It was more the events.mugwart
- The fact it is a kids movie actually made me cry. There is no voice for children these days just sales. I found myself numb and very sad. I took my family tomugwart
- the comic shop afterwards and felt the same there. Story telling is so pure and so essential to the human spirit. Comedy is about bullying different opinions.mugwart
- Romance is "weird" (yes I know its complex issues).
This ... this was a let down. Why did Luke do this? Han solo suprise saves were him turning a cheekmugwart - everythign here was stringing together scenes the commitees wanted.mugwart
- Dont get me wrong I wanted Rai to be great. I wanted her arch to be fucking kick arse. She should be raw, she should be angry, she should be confused.mugwart
- She's like the DareDevil - she should be the bad guy but something is holding on to her. Something that was never taught to her -- humanitymugwart
- Its an amazing story arch. Its why she could be so raw. Shes a contract to Kylo.
But nothing was explored other than a finger touch. Which should have meant amugwart - great dealmugwart
- sadly I think you're taking stabs at the movie from a cynical eye. word is Rian Johnson had barely any input from the Disney fat cats. This is HIS film.inteliboy
- I think the secondary characters - rose, finn, poe - are the ones vocalizing 'for the kids', very obvious in their choice of settings (rich vs poor)colin_s
- Also the theme of the movie was "kill the past" so it was very much a warning, "this will not be what you expect" etc. - a re-tooling of the expectedcolin_s
- kill the past but it remains the same.
I hope it wasn't just his film... I would be more sad as there was no voice at all.
Luke had no reason to diemugwart - yoda/ obi won/ Anarkin all had a meaning. Symbolic. Luke's is fear meditationmugwart
- and the award for least coherent criticism goes to ...e-wo
- the dark side won. enjoy the corporate thrill ride!since1979
- E-wo, your rigjtn doing this made me realise how exhausted I am currently. The film left me in an emotional state. Didn't really edit this much.mugwart
- Why is this rant on the front page!!
& its * #right!mugwart - I love when people complain about PC when it's just a passive aggressive form of bigotry. This world is complete fiction and you're actually complaining aboutCyBrainX
- all the characters not being white. That's what it boils down to.CyBrainX
- colin_s2
https://theconcourse.deadspin.co…
this movie was even better the second time.
- Yeah, Last Jedi gets points from me for many of the reasons listed in this article.FNP14
- this is cool_niko
- nice.inteliboy
- Yes, but much of it was executed like shit.CygnusZero4
- it's a cinematic sand mandalasince1979
- _niko2
This sums it up nicely lol
- lolKrassy
- perfect.Al_dizzle
- them tooffshelloeatbreathedrive
- lol. Yeah too many bad writers on this movieNBQ00
- Saw it last night, honestly - meh.helloeatbreathedrive
- sted4
I came out from the movies like this:
- What the fuck I just paid for?
- Loved the guy who shouted loud YOU FUCKING BITCH at the result of Rajs (yeah she is dumb as an indian goatherd) first wandering off.
- Lots people teleportation and background changes without changing time or the scene.
- Some of the characters don't belong there. Like at the beginning on the millennium falcon there is this alien in the background during the conversation what dominates the scene.
- Only fucking space animals can define an alien planet?annoying garbage if you have an eye for detail.
srry- You know it, I know it, vegetable lasagna knows it...helloeatbreathedrive
- It’s all Jar Jar Abrams faultNBQ00
- utopian3
How Disney Built Star Wars, in real life
Disney's Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge is a tour de force of technology and world building.
- MrT6
Finally saw it yesterday like an obedient consumer. It felt like every box on the list was being ticked, right down to the diversity-quota cast of rebels for the next instalment. Just another remix.
