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- breadlegz
Looks like Britain has decided to join in the bombing.
- lowimpakt0
i am thinking about the innocent women, men and children in Syria that are facing their final days alive
- Only war fighters are left in Syria. Everyone else has fleed.Hayoth
- That's a massive assumption.breadlegz
- by Hayoth I meanbreadlegz
- noop, US-led and Russian airstrikes have been killing hundreds of innocent civilians over the last few monthslowimpakt
- http://www.independe…lowimpakt
- http://www.theguardi…lowimpakt
- Ask a Muslim...Cactus
- lowimpakt0
that's now 4 of the 5 nuclear weapons club flying over syria dropping bombs and selling arms to the enemies of each others' enemies in the region
- PeterPancake1
- what is this? qbn command centre?Milan
- fouty?doesnotexist
- Jerones....fyoucher1
- georgesIII0
reptilians please come take me aways from this world,
I want out,- make me into a bird so I can fly far, far away. Please God...monospaced
- Allahu Akbarutopian
- I don't want to live on this planet anymore either.ApeRobot
- dorf-1
pouring more fuel on the fire. this will only grow the resentment of muslims and lead to more jihadi extremism. the US has been bombing Syria for how many months? and yet, there's been no noticeable damage done to the "islamic state".
the short shortsightedness of western governments are leading us down a deadly rabbit hole.
- you're the expertdoesnotexist
- @dorf and what do you suggest should happen instead?Krassy
- we can start by ending our support of "moderate' rebel groups in syria. end the airstrike campaigns...dorf
- @dorf that's a short-term "solution" and a sign of weakness that other terrorist groups thrive off of.Krassy
- oh yes, after the successes in iraq and afghanistan the last thing we want is to appear weak. i agree.dorf
- formed-1
I do think more and more people are waking up to things since Iraq. Obama was ready to invade Syria over wmd's and that was stopped. Now, out of some massive God-inspired coincidence, we now have a "terror" group in the exact same place.
I think people, I pray, are waking up to the real motivations (oil), especially when Russia decides to get involved.
I don't think there will be another Iraq in my lifetime and I hope the tolerance for these little "wars" continues to evaporate.
Fear, though, is a powerful motivator and one does have to wonder the sequence of events (911=Iraq, even though Iraq was planned in Bush Sr.'s admin, etc., etc.).
Unfortunately, there's only one Presidential candidate that is speaking out against this (well, two if you count Rand), that's Bernie.
- monNom1
A bit tinfoil, but I've got a suspicion about all of this. Europe is a big customer for Russian gas piped through Ukraine. Russia invades Ukraine for some reason, which NATO doesn't like but can't do anything about because that's where they get all of their energy from. Coincidently, right around that time global gas prices fall through the floor, hurting Russia economically. And the centers of global finance are all controlled in western countries. Now Saudi Arabia is near enough to Europe that you could build a pipeline through Iraq and Syria into NATO member turkey and on in to Europe from there, cutting Russia out of the energy export business. As things seemed to be swinging towards no more Asad in Syria, Russia swoops in and stars bombing Asad's opposition, solidifying his hold on Syria, and russias hold on Europe as an energy customer. Its rather convenient that a new threat (ISIS) pops up right in the most strategically important area of the mid east. Probably a byproduct of these ongoing wars, but you can bet the superpowers won't let the opportunity go to waste.
To me it seems like a big chess game to cut Russia out of the loop.
- this is great, did you read this somewhere? Just asking because it makes sense, wonder if there are rumblings about it elsewhere._niko
- ultimately everyone's justification for this shit show which is "because ISIS" or "because Assad" just doesn't add up._niko
- no, it doesn't. It's a joke, really. First Obama goes on about wmd's, that doesn't fly, and now we have ISIS right where he/they wanted to invade.formed
- It's same as it always has been, money, oil, money, oil, power.formed
- It's almost funny, in a sad, evil and ironic way, that the talk is all about ridding the world of these elusive barbarians and none of the media talks about theformed
- pipelines and the real motivation. Half the population still believes Iraq was for wmd's and worth it.formed
- ^ That's the real failure, that media, even "serious" journalism takes government explanations at face value and never explores the geopolitical motives.yuekit
- hey monnom, check jame colbert's work, it will give you a more indepth look
https://www.corbettr…georgesIII - Russia invaded Ukraine ?
Shit !gonzalle - @_niko I don't think I read this specific scenario elsewhere, it's just connecting the dots from other stuff i've read.monNom
- Only thing your missing is russia has signed gas deals with china and others, they dont need europe.Hayoth
- doesnotexist0
when has there NOT been a "chess game" to cut russia out of the "loop"?
are you high?
- georgesIII0
let's be fuckn honest,
UK, France, US's main mission from the start was to take out assad,they trained the so called rebels who are now isis,
they gave air support to them,
they gave them loads of money and weapons,
bombed syrian troops's location for them,
never once bombing a single isis convoy or oil tanker
obama and cameron publicly vowed to take assad out,
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the way the western propaganda paint him would be comical if there wasn't real humans dying at the end of the line.
so now everyone is cheering the uk getting in for the bombing, but once again they weren't fuckn invited,
what is syria friend™?? how do they get to decide anything that happens in a sovereign state?
what is the plan for the after assad??
anyone?
- _niko0
What are the possible outcomes of all this?
1) Assad wins (victory for Russia, Iran and Hesbolah)
2) Isis wins (create a caliphate, Assad falls, rebels fall, NATO is defeated, Russia and Iran are defeated.
3) Rebels win (victory for the US and NATO, Assad falls, Russia, and Iran go back to being the bad guys.
4) World War fucking III- the rebels.. are.. isis,
if they win point 2 will happen which is basically what winners of point 3 want before they lead us to point 4georgesIII - Or maybe no one wins and you just get a de facto partition of Syria into ISIS controlled, Kurdish controlled, etcyuekit
- https://www.youtube.…bulletfactory
- the rebels.. are.. isis,
- Dillinger0
I was listening to an Iranian business man who has lived there all his life. he said, if ISIS win then all the other groups will join them. If ISIS lose the other groups will kill the remaining ISIS fighters and continue with their own agenda. This is how they roll in that part of the world.
- mekk1
Germany joined, too. Great! Wohoo! Brings the IS even closer to europe, it's like a big red fucking pimple you're popping and it's facing towards Europe. Just add more pressure.
Can I please live in one country that does not fight wars?
- Agreed. I wonder if Bhutan accepts Western refugees.Continuity
- Merkel will allow the Germans to bring their boyfriendsDillinger
- Ben990
As i posted in the ISIS thread,
> http://www.theguardian.com/comme…
''West learned nothing from war on terror"
We are repeating the same error again.
All this shit started when Bush decided, based on biblical Apocalypse shit, to invade irak. It was all downhill from there.
- Derp. The whole agenda of the 'west' is to create war. Always has been. Always will be.set
- So they are repeating the same error on purpose thenBen99
- Of course.set
- Yeah, I don't think there's any effort or thought to "solve problems". Think about the trillions that get spent on war, how much we spend "defense"formed
- Bernie and Rand are the only ones talking about staying out of the mess, everyone else just wants more and more, get the public scared of ISIS and the horrorformed
- and it's a slam dunk. Assad wasn't enough, so, amazingly, ISIS emerges.formed
- https://33.media.tum…yurimon
- Even Bernie and Rand are in favor of airstrikes. I think Corbyn is the only major politician in US/UK who is genuinely anti-war, and look at how he is treated.yuekit
- Assad is a state actor, so attacking him amounts to the flavour of War that's currently unpalatable to the West, hence proxy support for guerrilas, etc.detritus
- Just look what happened to Syria's neighbour, Iraq, last time the West decapitated a government. We learn one lesson, then make another.detritus
- "an irak is one of the worst animal you can fight with. they are ultra strong and fight like no one."garbage
- set1
Cue false flag disaster in London this year.
Please government take away more of our freedoms to keeps us safes!