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- uan0
- f-16 attack. violation of airspace for 17 seconds.
https://twitter.com/…uan - Whoanb
- f-16 attack. violation of airspace for 17 seconds.
- _niko0
Putin is crazy enough to carve out southern Turkey and hand it to the Kurds.
The real shit show's about to begin.
Most likely outcome will be NATO paying for Turkey's action and lifting Russian sanctions in exchange for Russia not retaliating.
- imagineallthepeople0
associate to 2012, when turkey lost a jet to syrian AA fire.
"Mr Erdogan spoke of Turkey's "rage" at the decision to shoot down the F-4 Phantom on 22 June and described Syria as a "clear and present threat". "A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack," he said."
"On Saturday, President Gul said the Turkish government could not ignore the fact that Syria had shot down a Turkish aircraft.
... "It is routine for jet fighters to sometimes fly in and out over [national] borders... when you consider their speed over the sea," he added. These are not ill-intentioned things but happen beyond control due to the jets' speed."
- sofakingback-9
Not the Turkey we were looking for... gobble gobble.
- OBBTKN0
Cold winter for Turks, be ready, russians do not forgive
- Ben990
The russian plane spend a total of 17 sec. in the Turkish air space. Says the Turkish.
Putin says Russia will not go to war against Turkey.
In the same article i've read :
"Putin says the relation between the two contry won't change"
2 paragraphs later >
"Putin says Russia will seriously re-evaluate the relation with Turkey"
- microkorg0
@imagineallthepeople it was on the news in Scotland here last week there was a russian plane that was in our airspace and had to be intercepted and told to "get tae fuck!"
- fadein11-1
and these shenanigans on a regular basis:
http://news.sky.com/story/159247…- Happens ALL the time. A friend of a friend works for the forces in radar and they are the ones that raise the alert then interceptors get sent out.microkorg
- Dillinger0
60% of Turkish Gas comes from Russia LOL
- utopian0
Russian airstrikes reportedly target Turkish aid convoy in Syria.
- Ben990
Russia will officially sanction Turkey economically.
Its in the news.
- _niko1
whatever happens from here on in, by staying out of this bullshit, China and the far east will reap all rewards.
- while the Muslims, Christians and Jews all slaughter each other over make-believe nonsense._niko
- China get loads of terrorist attacks don't they. Didn't the have one last month with 60-70 killed at a coal mine?HAYZ1LLLA
- @niko : I don't see many christians exploding themselves and slaughter anyone... If I'm wrong, then fuck them all and let bomb Vatican !gonzalle
- yeah you do hear things sporadically. "After the Communist takeover in 1949, more than 4.5 million Turkish Muslims were killed by the Communist government_niko
- don't think China would have a problem killing 4.5 million more if they had to. Zero fucks given is their State motto._niko
- @gonzalles, the west is bombing the fuck out of syria/iraq right now, so even though it's not in the name of christianity, they are still mostly christians._niko
- and not with suicide belts, more civilized with drones and cruise missiles lol._niko
- ISIS are trying to make it a clash of religions but in reality it's political, economical and a clash of cultural ideals, modern and progressive vs old and cons_niko
- China is the next LeaderBen99
- feel0
Physicists Show Both Russia And Turkey Were Lying About The Downed Russian Plane
- yepBen99
- a false observation he makes: "shows that it changed course by 90 degrees when it was hit by the missile." it just disappeared from radar when it was hit.uan
- the 90 degrees angle was made in flight, there is even another 90 degree a bit earlier in flight tragectory http://i.imgur.com/b…uan
- instrmntl0
My father was a fighter pilot. Jets violating airspace generally get a couple of warnings and an escort to return to their own airspace. It appears this global courtesy didn't happen. Its actually the agreed upon procedure.
- PonyBoy0
Regardless of what really happened... If Russia and Turkey come to arms then anyone a part of NATO (The US, most of Europe) 'must' render military support to Turkey... basically starting a physical WWIII. Turkey may not have many allies that 'like' them but in reality have plenty of allies simply cuz of NATO... ... fucking mess. :/
- Not a (WWII type) mess. Russia will impose economic sanction (it already did last week).Krassy
- Just saying if they went to war—NATO (US / EU) has to back Turkey creating a WWIII— this silliness in Syria is far from over, too many players to keep in order.PonyBoy
- turkey went after reporters this week that proved they support ispiss.yurimon
- NATO would boot them out before that happened - jesus - stop scaremongering.fadein11
- NATO can't just boot them... this is not scaremongering... just stating current geopolitical facts - jesus - stop avoiding the truthPonyBoy
- Turkey is dead-center of this mess... no way they get booted from NATO. NATO leaders / nations aren't that stupid. On the other hand they're obligated to...PonyBoy
- ... 'help' Turkey in the event Russia decides they've had enough of them.PonyBoy
- Beeswax0
shitz getting real.
Russia today showcased how Turkish president (they particularly said "President Erdogan and his family) smuggled oil in Turkey from Syria, by showing satellite images.
At the same time Erdogan was signing a new natural gas agreement with Qatar since Russia might cut off the gas pipeline any minute.
Also there are talks in the capital that Turkey might close the Bosphorus Strait to Russian ships which would be a big blow for Russia.
According to Montreux agreement Turkey has the right to close Bosphorus in case there's a WAR.If Turkey does that Russia might take this as a direct invitation for a war.
We're stuck between these two Maniax
- crazy. Which in turn would bring in the rest of NATO and everything would quickly go to hell in a handbasket. All his actions seem self serving, any chance of.._niko
- ...impeachment or something, seems to be setting a dangerous course for turkey_niko
- fucked up!utopian
- Won't happen... and maniacs by who's standards?fadein11