CMYK in Lightroom?

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  • CincodeMayo

    I'm pretty new to Lightroom but I'm trying to use it more often. I'm editing a handful of photos there now, and thinking ahead I realized that my printer wants these in CMYK. I don't see any CMYK options in LR. Do they not exist? Should I just edit these in Photoshop or is there some magical conversion I need to do at the end?

    HELP!

  • PonyBoy0

    photoshop

    • gives you a little more control in the end too... rather than just trusting the output settings of an app (if they exist)PonyBoy
  • monNom2

    Work in RGB for your edits/workflow, then Convert to CMYK after you're all done.

    • exactamundo... not rocket science is it ha.fadein11
    • seems he's already done that and is just trying to convert... but yes - appropriate tip :)PonyBoy
    • ^ eh? he said do all edits in lightroom then convert to CMYK in PS. How has he already done that? If he had he wouldn't be asking the question.fadein11
    • guess I read him wrong... read it as after-the-fact...PonyBoy
    • /threadgarbage
  • Cosmodrome0

    If the file was exported with the RGB Pro Photo color profile, convert the profile to Adobe RGB, then convert to CMYK.

    Converting straight from Pro Photo RGB to CMYK tends to have inconsistent results. I notice it always comes out desaturated and grayish.

  • PonyBoy0

    Just wondering... if you have Photoshop... why even bother with Lightroom?

    I've never gone in the app... I'm under the impression it's a Mom / Pop app that is primarily cliche adjustment filters and minor touch-up tools (less cumbersome to those trying to do a few quick things)... is my thinking wrong? (again... haven't opened the app so I really don't know anything except for brief blurbs I've read)

    • you are so wrong.

      lightroom is so much better than photoshop for image control.
      imbecile
    • ^ how?scarabin
    • I use it to import, catalogue, and develop raw files. You can do some minor touch-ups, but it's for importing and developing large amount of photos.Cosmodrome
    • Much finer control of every aspect of a RAW bitmap image be it highlights, shadows, color, etc. over Photoshop. The HSL / Color / B&W panel is a prime example.imbecile
    • ^oh yeah... read some info on that somewhere, cosmodrome... by cataloging... does that mean renaming?PonyBoy
    • weird they wouldn't put this all into photoshop... seems LR is directed towards photographers more than pixel-pushers... yes?PonyBoy
    • It's for photographers, yes. it's called Lightroom (as opposed to Darkroom, get it?)imbecile
    • it IS in Photoshop, but not exactly... it's in Photoshop RAW, special for importing/processing RAW images before opening Photoshop propermonospaced
    • I mean, Camera RAW. Try it out, Pony, by opening a RAW image.monospaced
    • ah... yeah... I know what you're talking about, mono... it's a pop-up of sorts (slightly external)PonyBoy
    • personally, i prefer Lightroom to the PS raw editor. (still more control)imbecile
    • yeah, me toomonospaced
    • Light room is specifically made for photo work flow.pango
    • You have more control doing batch work flow as well.pango
    • I like Lightroom to select/catalogue images cuts from big shoots.sephil
    • LR is definitely NOT Mom/Pop.garbage
    • not better necessarily - just has a different set of tools specifically for that purpose.fadein11
    • Def Better for photogs batch work flow.pango
    • Once you start using Lr you'll never go back. It is aimed at photographers, so if you don't need to sort/edit/manage a lot it won't be worth it.formed
    • But for quick corrections (wb, exposure, etc.) it's great. It's also great for exporting different sizes (web, fb, print, etc.), water marks, etc.formed
    • Agree with all the comments that are pro-Lightroom. You can edit RAW in PS, but LR is for a different purpose.mg33
    • LR replaces a Bridge > PS workflow and adds so many extra features.mg33
    • Plus, LR uses 100% non-destructive editing, which you can't exactly achieve with ACR + PS. At least not in a contained, logical way.nb
  • slappy4

    If you are still processing photos in photoshop, you are wasting hours and hours of your life.

    You can import, sort, process 500 raw files in minutes in lightroom and have them exported in highres and lowres with contact sheets.

    Everything about it is better than photoshop, and when you need photoshop, command + E and your file opens in photoshop, you make the edits, hit save and your back in Lightroom again.

    • what he said.imbecile
    • Great - I am always processing 500 RAW files - must download.fadein11
  • fourth1

    LOL at people hating on LR and recommending PS.

    This is what I wrote about LR a long time ago:

    http://www.qbn.com/topics/657982…

    • who hated on it?PonyBoy
    • you did lolfourth
    • Didn't hate... Asked a Q and said I've only read Mom / Pop comments... Your hate spotter is broken.PonyBoy
  • mekk0

    For easiness, set all your Color Settings in CS/CC up via the Adobe Bridge. Use sRGB as your Work Colorspace if you have an uncalibrated display, use your own profile if calibrated. Ask your printer for the right CMYK profile and convert at the end.

  • Continuity0

    Lightroom is fucking brilliant (though not quite so much as Aperture).

    The only real reason to use PS with photography now is for comping.

  • jaylarson0

    I always use Photo RGB instead of sRGB or Adobe. as it has the largest gamut of color (when working outside of raw). Never knew there were inconsistencies.

    • but i always set the final export as sRGB as most printer prints at sRGB anyway.pango
    • No printers print rgb.monospaced
    • Sorry I meant inkjet printers. And most every printers I know, knows how to properly convert sRGB to CMYK. So we really don't need to worry about CMYKpango
    • Those fancy 11 colour printers from EPSON are better served by an RGB image than a CMYK one. The print engine will do the separations based on the inks.monNom
    • For *photographs. Unless your photos are in other mediums. Books, poster, flyer, etc. LR is specifically made for photographers.pango
    • Damn it MonNom! you cut off my sentence!pango
    • It's great until you need to convert to CMYK. Convert the profile to sRGB or Adobe first, then convert to CMYK.Cosmodrome
    • Converting to CMYK is not photogs job. That's graphic designers or printers job.pango
    • With that said, it would be nose if they can include CMYK profile in the export setting. Shouldn't be that hard.pango
    • Nose is nice...pango
  • tank020

    I never supply photo's anymore in CMYK, always srgb. For our book, magazines and ads. The printer is going to rip those images anyways with their profile, so its even better if they have that basic srgb. Photo rgb is nice, but gives alot misery when using in online or handing it over to 3d parties.

  • OctopiStimuli0

    work in rgb with cmyk preview on if you must to avoid any nasty colour changes in your blues and greens mostly

  • mg331

    A few LR tips:

    Delete old backups. They take up space and you really only need the last one that was run.

    Create a workflow that becomes second nature to you. Mine for example is:

    1. Import & tag based on place or purpose.
    2. Review photos and flag photos to delete, single star for good photos.
    3. Delete all flagged photos.
    4. Edit a photo using presets + modifications. Lens correction, auto straightening, etc.
    5. Save as a new preset.
    6. Go through other starred photos and apply that preset to ones from the same scene, lighting similarities, etc. Adjust settings as warranted.
    7. Other edits / fixes as needed: spot correction, etc.
    8. Label every edited photo green. This tells me it's been edited.
    9. When done with all individual photo edits, filter view to green labels only.
    10. Decide which ones I really like, change label go purple.
    11. Review purple labels and narrow down to top 10-12 and label blue.
    12. Blue labels go on website, Flickr, IG, other sites. Sometimes I will put the remaining purple "seconds" on Flickr.
    13. Have all the export presets you need for different reasons. I've got them for website cover photos (1600px wide) website posts (1000px wide) desktops (2560px) FB, and ones for print purposes.

    This is what I do every single time I'm working on something.

    • this is competent advice.imbecile
    • Thanks!mg33
    • noted. nice workflow :)
      LR vs Aperture, any thoughts?
      Gnash