Russell Brand
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- indian_pole0
the people that are slamming him aren't really putting forward any arguments on what exactly they disagree with him on, and why. other than superficial crap like how he looks and talks.
- yurimon said Brand is a puppet of the elite, secret Fabian society that subverts society to its ultimate goalsmonospaced
- Gucci0
I heard him on Stern the other day and he wasn't running the show like he is in the first video, but that could be because Stern was asking him about Katy Perry's tits.
I think the biggest thing is that he continually outmatches his interviewers with his frenetic energy. As others have said, he makes valid points. Meh.
- Wolfboy0
I disagree with what he appears to be saying and here are my arguments for why:
Firstly I say ‘appears to be saying’ because he dodges any direct questions and returns to vague and rather flowery concepts. From what I can gather he is saying that 'we' (because he speaks for most people apparently) don't want a government any more, we don't want people at the top of society running the country. We shouldn’t vote because ‘we’ don’t want to be a part of the system.
Balls to that. I agree that the current political and economical systems are massively flawed, but that doesn't mean I don't want any politicians and no form of capitalism.
I want a rethink to the current system and heavier regulation for the corporations and banks. I want an end to first past the post politics because that is where (in the UK certainly) the problems stem. It has bred a culture of politics that is all together too targeted on a small amount of seats and the MPs in the house do not truly represent the numbers of votes across the country. I'll nail my colours to the mast - something which Brand does not do - and say my vote would be for Proportional Representation with an overhaul of the House of Lords - no more un-elected people should have any say in the country.
I definitely don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water though - I like the fact that you are rewarded for effort and ambition in a capitalist society. More regulation at the top so massive corporations and the super rich can't dodge tax and responsibility while those of us that work hard can have a decent life. I still want a strong welfare state so everyone has on opportunity to do something with their lives, I’m no Tory who just think those at the bottom are scum.
So there you go, it’s not the florid affected speech pattern or his cerazzeee outfits and spirituality that get’s on my tits; it’s his lack of substance and the amount of apologists who are saying it’s not about giving alternatives, it’s just about starting the conversation. When you're bandying around phrases like Revolution and telling people to opt out of the system, you better have some ideas to say what comes next.
- sem0
I don't understand the people who are like "So what? he's just saying what many of us think"
Why is that a bad thing? lol, surely MORE people should be saying what we think to help make change. At the end of the day he don't need to do this, he has his money. But he actually gives at shit about people other than himself.
I like the bloke and think I'd rather a world with him in it than without.
Also, if I didn't like him, I just wouldn't watch his videos really.....quite a simple solution when you think about it.
- indian_pole0
I think his main idea is pretty simple - if you feel unrepresented, don’t put your trust in the concentrated powers, find people in the same situation, organise yourselves on a local level, take some power back. it works, i’ve seen it, here are some examples...
@wolfboy - not sure if you’ve listened to many of his broadcastsor you are just commenting on an interview or two (there’s thousands - admittedly he’s annoyingly repetitive, and often a self-confessed hypocrite) - but it actually sounds like you agree with alot of what Brand is banging on about.
the questions he dodges (e.g. 9/11 and john lewis) are the kind of questions that are intended to sideline the overarching idea he's interested in and - ahem- brand him in the media as a loony conspiracist etc...
- Wolfboy0
Watch his videos? He was on friggin Newsnight! That's not his YouTube channel (the kind of place this kind of ranting belongs), it was on a serious news programme.
If it's not Hugh Grant on Question Time, it's this anus on Newsnight.
I happily spend my days not watching his videos, but when he bleeds into the world of current affairs with bizarre partially formed ideas about society I think I get to rant on the internet about the twat.
At the end of the day all he is doing is pulling away the kind of people who might vote for what passes as a left leaning party and leaving the right leaning parties with an open goal. And yes, all parties have moved towards a more palatable centre ground, but there is still a difference between Labour and the Tories. While they all might be a bunch of cunts, know which cunts I'd rather have in power.
- BTW, This was in reply to Sem.Wolfboy
- exactly why i'm glad someone with a voice is saying 'why should we have cunts ruling us'?indian_pole
- don't choose the lesser of 2 cunts, choose no cunts. cunts will never make progress.indian_pole
- Yet Russel is UberCunt. Oh the irony...NonEntity