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- voiceof
I'm about to print out a pocket folder for a client (I never do print work). The folder is pretty much just solid red (p 485) with the logo in white and some 1pt lines in the background at an 80% screen of the red.
I was going to get these printed on 130# Mohawk Superfine Ultrawhite cover. Should I be concerned about getting these printed on an uncoated stock, will it hold the color? Is there anything special I should do?
QBN has been great lately with all the help.
- voiceof0
Looking at project like these It looks like it should hold up well. Though I have no clue what sort of paper they are using.
- d_rek0
I might recommend a flood aqueous or matte UV to add a layer of protection, although it's not necessary. It may dull your color too much for your preference though.
- voiceof0
^ Lemmy_k, Is there anything I should ask for or do to help ensure a good result?
- Yeah, talk to the pressman and do a press check. Don't tell him how to do his job, just ask if it can be done. I ran presses for 30 years, and if someone that had never inked a press started telling me how to do it, it wasn't going to happen.lemmy_k
- monospaced0
You shouldn't have any issues, whatsoever, with Mohawk superfine uncoated stock. That is a hard pressed smooth paper and it shows color and detail very well. We use it regularly.
- Again, depends on the press and the pressman. You could have the best press operator and a shitty press and it won't work and visa versa.lemmy_k
- I was addressing his question about detail and color on this paper, but yes, pressmen can f it upmonospaced
- monospaced0
I would recommend having them show you samples of work printed on that stock (or comparable), and be ON PRESS when they run it. If something's not to your liking, you can call them out on it right there.
- PonyBoy0
what lemmy said...
... talk to your pressman (not the salesguy handling your account - ask to go straight to the person running the press)
- voiceof0
QBN is great, thanks for everyone's help.
- I'm glad you asked a smart question (unlike some people)monospaced
- i_monk0
If in doubt, get a proof.
- doesnotexist0
why not red paper
- I never even thought about that. I just knew I wanted them to match the business cardsvoiceof
- Josev0
I specify Mohawk Superfine all the time, mostly for process-color. It's a great sheet. I would go to a press check though, especially with the 80% screen which is going to gain on this sheet (your printer should make adjustments to accommodate for the dot gain)
- voiceof0
The sales person is saying that I could go with 130# Cougar white (their house stock) and it would save about $500 dollars and the end result wouldn't be much different. What do you think?
- Josev0
Cougar is not the premium sheet that Superfine is, but it's not bad. You are flood coating it with ink (it sounds like), so the surface color is probably not going to be as important.
- Ive used Cougar for brochures in the past. It's not a bad sheet.Josev
- I dont know what your client does or what they're expecting as far as finish, feel, etc.Josev
- Mohawk is nicer, IMOmonospaced
- of course the Mohawk is nicer, but if cost is a concern...Josev
- Mohawk has a brighter white, better surface formation. But we don't know all of the details of the jobJosev
- Yes, the surface formation will help with his tinted 1pt lines.monospaced
- oh, come on. Lines knocked out of one color. I think cougar can handle that. I would worry more about how the tint prints across the sheet than the 1pt lrules.Josev
- across the sheet than the knocked out, 1pt rules.Josev
- I think he said the 1pt rules were the tints. They're one in the same, and low formation is best.monospaced
- lemmy_k0
Another big issue will be rub and offset. Get an aqueous coating on it. That should help. With that coverage, the sheet won't feel much different once it's all done.
- voiceof0
I am mostly concerned with having a rich consistent color and a smooth feel. This is 96% red on the outside and 100% gray on the inside so if the cougar can hold the ink just about as well and the texture will be nice I will definitely go with saving $500. The client is a government contractor so they will already stand out by not using the standard glossy folder.
- Ask for samples. The Mohawk sample swatch book shows solids on the paper, and the cougar swatch book has printed samples.Josev
- samples. The superfine is a superior sheet.Josev
- Is the audience their donors?Josev
- or clients? Or for internal/staff use? Maybe both?Josev
- potential clients and partnersvoiceof
- Paper color or ink color consistency?lemmy_k
- doesnotexist0
all this would be solved at a press check anyways
- Yes, BUT if he doesnt like the paper they may have to order a new stock which could be costly and lose their press timeJosev