Windows 8 failure
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- youngdesigner
The dire state of the global PC market has been exposed after IDC said PC sales during the first quarter were the lowest it had ever seen – and the research firm pointed the finger of blame at Microsoft’s Windows 8.
- ETM0
Boy, I do wish I was in an industry where lowest historical sales is still 76 million units in a quarter!
- GeorgesIV0
windows hate,
are they dumb?
they should give it an animal name- Windows BugTheBlueOne
- haiku?pango
- < lolukit2
- Haha George! Genius!
Windows unicorn!!Hombre_Lobo
- ETM0
I used to buy computers (PC and Mac) every couple years because hardware changed sooooo fast. Processors, video cards, buses, memory etc, We plateaued years ago in hardware and very little has changed for desktops in 5 or more years. So why bother buying a new desktop until it dies?
If you're a gamer you used to have to buy a new video card every 6-12 months to play the latest games at top settings. Now I can play a new game in top, HD settings with a 2+ year old card. The market is different.
Desktops are mature. All the innovation and need to improve is in the mobile/tablet space now. More speed, lower power, smaller size.
So tablets are only 1 factor in slumping sales, the lower demand requirement is another.
- True. I think my next upgrade of kit is the last I'm going to need for a while.mikotondria3
- deathboy0
Think ETM hit the nail on the head. My machine is 2.5 years old. Rips through anything I throw at it. 7.6 WEI score on processor is the lowest with the other 7.8-7.9. I'm tempted to build a new win8 machine and boost the processor from a first gen i7 to the ivy bridge and get a board that doesn't have a marvel SSD controller so i can get better write times (bottlenecked at about 260MB). But im thinking probably have another couple years to use it since the latest macbook pros still come in with a lesser WEI score. Just no need to upgrade hardware as fast anymore. And as far as software my win7 works like a champ. Ive seen win8 and its slightly faster than 7 with a few other restructured OS things that i like and they got rid of the glass and simplified the look which is awesome, but the little aesthetic stuff and speed increase isnt enough for me to upgrade and do a clean install.
- pango0
on the bright side, W8 could stop a potential nuclear war.
- omg0
- ya i'd like to know the logic behind removing it.pango
- logic is that your your desktop is your start button.monkeyshine
- a cluttered desktop...omg
- formed0
I think Windows 8 will be a success. Everyone I know using it love it, so far. But the market for PCs is changing, so it won't be the same refresh cycle as everyone else is noting.
Windows Phone and Surface will be more of a success, too, as people begin to grow tired of Apple (iPhone5 sales down 19% this quarter alone).
For anyone to "blame" Windows 8 is pathetic. The market has been changing for years, a 10 year old could tell you things will be different!
Personally, I can't wait for the HTC One to come with Windows and the Surface Pro II. Then I can finally say good buy to Apple.
- not to sound fanboyish, but do you really think people will move to Windows because they get bored of their iPad?monospaced
- also, it's "goodbye," not "good buy"monospaced
- no, they'll move b/c it's more integrated into their work/life world.monkeyshine
- Yeah, what monkey said. It is a logical "Eco-system".
formed - I can't be responsible for what I write before I have my coffee :)formed
- mono the spelling cop, wtf dude, do you think people spell check everything they write online?spot13
- monospaced0
My girlfriend is totally tech ignorant. She doesn't have her own computer even, using her work laptop rarely, and only last month got her first "smart" phone, for which she barely does anything still. She saw the commercial where the guy in the plane pulls the screen off his W8 machine and hands it to some kid behind him, blowing the child's mind, and she says, "now that is really cool." She had seen every other ad and commercial and even me talking about it but it took that commercial to get to her and for some reason she really, really liked the product. Basically, the most tech naive person I know wants one, and that's what I think Microsoft can get.
- She must be great in bed dude... How do you do it? :Dmg33
- Only kidding! :)mg33
- With her attention focused on things other than technology, it's safe to say she's great in bed.monospaced
- monospaced0
I really really want to try W8, and I thought I'd just go make that happen this weekend. The geek in me has always wanted to boot Windows up on my Mac and get all nostalgic with old PC games. Fuckin' a, that shit costs hundreds of dollars. What. The. Fuck? How does Microsoft expect to get new users when they charge so much for an OS?
- ukit20
Microsoft is preparing to reverse course over key elements of its Windows 8 operating system, marking one of the most prominent admissions of failure for a new mass-market consumer product since Coca-Cola’s New Coke fiasco nearly 30 years ago.
“Key aspects” of how the software is used will be changed when Microsoft releases an updated version of the operating system this year, Tami Reller, head of marketing and finance for the Windows business, said in an interview with the Financial Times. Referring to difficulties many users have had with mastering the software, she added: “The learning curve is definitely real.”
- ernexbcn0
Windows 7 wasn't bad.
- ernexbcn0
Their problem was applying the same OS to the tablet and the desktop, that was going to be a tough one and some think it's not realistic.
They should have stick with the Windows 7 experience on the desktop and use the new fangled start screen for the tablets only.
- ukit20
I wonder why it was so hard to make the startup screen and lack of start button optional in the first place? Those are pretty small changes, there were even third party software you can download that does it for you.
- mg330
Windows 7 and Windows 2000 were their crowning achievements. Based on that, I have to figure it will be another 10-12 years before we see another stellar platform from them.
- feel0
XP and 7 are great, 8 is just an attempt to be more user friendly like apple, failzord
- formed0
W7 is no different than 2000, imho. I had less problems with 2000.
I like W8, though, and think it is just a changing environment, no "failure" there. If anything iOS is a failure (as a design guy, "ugly" is big points against something, "pretty" is big points for), but Apple got the hardware correct, so they rule the day. How long that "day" will be depends on the next iPhone. If it fails, Apple will tumble, if it succeeds, they'll survive as they are. Everything rides on it, imho.
- Hahaha. Right. If apples next phone sucks the company will die. Heard that before.monospaced
- Apple is strong, but stagnant. They need cheaper iPhones on Chinese carriers to see big growth again. Western markets are saturated.ETM
- are saturated in general and seeing more competition in their space.ETM
- Apple won't die, of course, they have too much cash, but they will become a slow moving behemoth (if the next iPhone is blah, like the last few have been)formed
- blah, as the last 3 have been)formed
- pang0
Don't worry, the Start button is returning - whoop de doo!
http://www.latimes.com/business/…
- i_monk0
Billions of dollars were still made. Only capitalism could make this a bad thing. Is the world worse off due to 20 million fewer new computers?