Bootstrap & Kickstrap 2020 Responses

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• freakpelican

  interesting projects. Really dig the direction this stuff is going.

  http://twitter.github.com/bootst…

  http://getkickstrap.com/

  Dec 5, 12, 6:43 p.m. – Permalink

• zaq

  http://foundation.zurb.com/

  • Nice. How does this stack up against bootstrap?– jtb26

  

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  Dog-earDec 5, 12, 6:57 p.m. – Permalink

• cannonball1978

  Working on some SaaS stuff that uses bootstrap.

  

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  Dog-earDec 5, 12, 7:03 p.m. – Permalink

• orrinward2

  http://jetstrap.com/

  

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  Dog-earDec 6, 12, 2:16 a.m. – Permalink

• freakpelican

  Any examples any one here has of work they have done that was based off of any of these frameworks?

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 10:49 a.m. – Permalink

• Hombre_Lobo

  This would probably be interesting to me if i knew what bootstrap meant and what they did. Google time!

  • They're like frameworks that help you develop sites, lots of start you need before you start to build, css, 'blank' pages, etc.– mikotondria31/2

    Oh i see, i understand framework, thanks miko! :D– Hombre_Lobo2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 10:52 a.m. – Permalink

• yurimon

  Bootstrap works really well with django. me happy.

  I feel these template frameworks has or is changing job requirements for front end designers/web designers.

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 12:35 p.m. – Permalink

• trooperbill

  jetstrap.com is good too

  • is it as good as it was when someone posted it 4 post above this one?
    – freakpelican

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 12:40 p.m. – Permalink

• yurimon

  Attack of the framework names!!!!!!!
  Rabbit eats celery and carrots.

  http://rabbit.codeplex.com/
  http://celeryproject.org/
  http://project.carrot2.org/

  • will we run out of framework names?– yurimon1/2

    fuuuuuuuck– ohhhhhsnap2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 12:42 p.m. – Permalink

• instrmntl

  I used Bootstrap on my last 2 projects and really like it.

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 3:09 p.m. – Permalink

• trooperbill

  im having difficulty working within a framework after hand coding for the past 10 years... anyone got any tips cuz its like earning a different language...

  • which frame works?– yurimon1/2

    with what language?– yurimon2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 4:06 p.m. – Permalink

• ahli

  seriously trooper, just inspect the source, if you've been hand building for ten years you cant be a rookie...any problems in particular?

  • sure i can plonk divs etc... its getting it all to scale/adapt im struggling with
    – trooperbill

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 4:37 p.m. – Permalink

• dijitaq

  imo, the framework (i use foundation, btw) css reset is too much. so after working a couple of times with it, i ended up stripping down the reset to its bare essential and using my own reset especially for typography and form elements.

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 4:51 p.m. – Permalink

• instrmntl

  Rows, spans and media queries are the ticket.

  

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  Dog-earDec 8, 12, 5:38 p.m. – Permalink

• freakpelican

  im coming from a background of hacking my way into actionscript, hating the update to AS2 then being totally left behind by the "brilliant swap" to OOP AS3. The only way i was able to program well was in ActionScript1 when you could sneeze and code would work. i could drop shit into random movie clips embedded into ten deep movie clips and know exactly what I WAS DOING... now... im years behind the curve trying to do it "the right way".

  I hate programming now b/c im constantly learning someone elses proper way... i liked ruby b/c it was more elegantly sloppy like early actionscript. I know i can barely code with a team and i have no idea how to hand write a thing without having to source snippets needed... but damn, it used to be fun.

  • I feel you. I invested a good chunk of time in as3, and actually quite enjoyed it, until I saw the writing was on the wall.– mikotondria31/3

    Now it's all about being device and platform agnostic. Make it look good on big and small, css, typog, seo and css. Sigh.– mikotondria32/3

    oh for tellTarget, etc. :)– mikotondria33/3

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 12, 1:40 a.m. – Permalink

• freakpelican

  Any kind of project/library/framework that can do part of the code for me and not in an ugly "dreamweaver" style of shit code that you never really wanna use, im way behind it. The problem is there is just so many new things in the HTML5/Jquery/CSS/etc world i can never decide what to spend time focusing on.

  • Are you in front end or back end? or both? It would depend. me personally. bootstrap and django have been nice combo working with python language.– yurimon1/4

    working with python program language. I am a beginner in trying to update. paradigm shifted..– yurimon2/4

    its always going to change. html5, jquery, java css are in demand for front end. especially if you drop the UX designer in the conversation.– yurimon3/4

    in the conversation.– yurimon4/4

  

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  Dog-earDec 9, 12, 1:43 a.m. – Permalink

• instrmntl

  THE BIG BADASS LIST OF 219 USEFUL TWITTER BOOTSTRAP RESOURCES
  http://www.bootstraphero.com/the…

  

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  Dog-earDec 10, 12, 2:59 p.m. – Permalink

• monNom

  Bootstrap is great for making things that look like bootstrap.

  There, I said it.

  • this is so true i kinda abandoned it and went with my own coding in the end– prophetone

  

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  Dog-earDec 10, 12, 5:24 p.m. – Permalink

• freakpelican

  so monNom does the themes from kickstrap solve that?

  • haha. Basically theres a bunch of buttons etc you can use. I mainly use it for the responsive layouts.– instrmntl

  

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  Dog-earDec 11, 12, 2:38 p.m. – Permalink

• monNom

  ^ it's the system that makes it look like bootstrap. it's a codified system of menus, layout patterns, and widgets that, while they can be restyled, the framework underneath it all is the same, so they all end up looking a bit like bootstrap.

  I think it is awesome for APP/UI stuff, where you really strive for consistency in form and behaviour throughout the app, and in the ecosystem of similar products. For more 'creative' design, while it saves you time, it also boxes you into a corner. IE: something like this: http://www.microtyp.org/ is probably not going to fall out of the bootstrap toolbox.

  

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  Dog-earDec 11, 12, 4:23 p.m. – Permalink

• ETM

  I see the value in some cases, but I hate that many(all?) of these grid systems and frameworks violate the whole concept of separating presentation from markup.

  <div class="row">
  <div class="8u">content</div>
  <div class="4u">sidebar</div>
  </div>
  or
  <div class="4_col">content</div> etc. etc.

  To change the dimension of the content requires going back into markup.

  • +1– animatedgif

  

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  Dog-earDec 13, 12, 12:16 a.m. – Permalink