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- ETM0
Ugh. I am an agnostic, and really dislike these atheists who complain about religion forcing views on them, then they turn-around and do the same by forcing their lack of belief. Let people have their own choices. A symbol doesn't hurt you unless you make the concious choice to let it. Not being Christian doesn't blind me to the tradition and meaning of the Christmas holiday.
- ^ I'm with you on this thing being ridiculous, and "Not being Christian doesn't blind me to the tradition and meaning of the Christmas holiday. "
but wanting a lack of religious symbols in public does not equal forcing down believes.Peter - ... tradition and meaning of the Christmas holiday. "
but wanting a lack of religious symbols in public does not equal forcing down believes.Peter - ...forcing down believes.Peter
- It's a temporary symbol. It's not there all year. I look at it as a decoration.ETM
- Hell rotate it with symbols for all religious holidays through the year.ETM
- ^ I'm with you on this thing being ridiculous, and "Not being Christian doesn't blind me to the tradition and meaning of the Christmas holiday. "
- yurimon0
^ actually @autoflavour is right about atheism your gonna have a bad time.
Stalin, Mao- killed and enslaved millions upon millions of people.
If you were gay, you were thrown in gulag or killed and Stalin, Mao had plenty of underaged sex. I like your post. right on brotha.Anyone been to any fanatical atheists meetups? ITs pretty funny because as a generalization. those are some anger mofo's
Anger and extreme atheism is like every active feminist I ever met was bisexual or gay. bread and butter son.- so much fail in everything you just wrote, dont even going to start with you.autoflavour
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- next topicautoflavour
- your a hypocrite and a failyurimon
- I guess stalin was a great guy. and they loved gays in the gulagyurimon
- you loved gays in the gulagautoflavour
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- whhipp0
ok the manger has nothing to do about sacrificing a baby... why dont you read a bit before mouthing off, mathinc.
And yes maybe War is too aggressive of a term for you PC types, but its a very descriptive word that basically tells it like it is. Sorry monospaced, but this is part of US Culture and should be celebrated, but yet again people like you have to cry their way to removing the small bit of culture left of this young country of ours.
- i_monk0
Atheists can be agnostic or gnostic (for lack of a better term).
Agnostics can be atheists or theists.
Both can be religious – not all religions have gods.
Neither is a religion.
Neither has anything to do with "belief in science" or whatever dogma-analogue you want to insert.
- monospaced0
Seriously, wwhipp, it's called sarcasm. His point was that you should follow your believes, WHATEVER they are, and not impose them on the rest of us. Nobody thinks it's about sacrifice, dude.
- utopian0
Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.- lame. science flies planes into buildings, not the power of prayer ffs.hans_glib
- trust me, they were praying as they flew into those buildings... utopian is spot on heremonospaced
- they might have been praying. but that's not how those planes were flying. science made the planes fly.hans_glib
- and yes i know i'm being a pedant.hans_glib
- and i hate religion as much as the next hipster. but really that sort of lamo interwebz stuff makes me heavehans_glib
- what did mission control say to John Glenn? "Godspeed John Glenn". Stupid argumenthans_glib
- pango0
well. the whole santa thing is a big fat Lie. >:( and i believed them! sonavabitch! This is what you get for lying!! NOBODY GETS TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS NO MORE!
- monospaced0
Also, this country's true culture is religious freedom without fear of persecution, NOT Christianity. YOU might think Christianity is US culture, but it's not, and therefore shouldn't be a required celebration, especially for the millions who think the whole thing is ridiculous. You're the one claiming it's a "war" and expressing your hate, but only because you think the majority rules. It doesn't.
- haha listen to your words... fear from religious persecution, but not the nonreligious persecution... hmmmwhhipp
- yupteh
- it's ANY persecution, and there's NONE going on you duncemonospaced
- so you answered my point. No one is being persecuted, so let the mangers be.whhipp
- YOU claimed there's persecution, from the non-religious. I'm saying there's none. Therefore, NO WAR. No fuck off.monospaced
- Now get your goddamn manger out of my fucking public view. It's a bunch of mythical junk.monospaced
- Why mono, why you so offended? Why?whhipp
- tax $ that's whyprophetone
- I'm offended that you ASSUME Christianity is our culture. It's naive and rude, and then you claim it's a war.monospaced
- ok so... christmas and mangers have no cultural footing in the US culture? Really? Serious?whhipp
- They have footing in our culture, but this country's long-standing principle is to keep it separate from the state.monospaced
- of course, for those who seek it outprophetone
- ukit20
The argument about who has "killed more people" is silly. Atheism doesn't really lead to any kind of morals or behavior, it's just an observation about reality.
Lenin was an atheist, but so was Ayn Rand. Total opposites in terms of ideology and worldview.
- Ayn Rand is Rothchilds Whore. Her work, you have to read between the lines and understand those bastards symbology.yurimon
- really mean in the symbology.
But Atheism in it purest for the biggest mind fuck out the communist idealogueyurimon - and yes it does matter how many people die or enslaved because these concepts are not dead and some aholes try to push these idealsyurimon
- push these ideals into the public to generate useful idiots for the sake of their agendas.yurimon
- same goes for followers of anything. have to be careful and understand things in their historical and political context.yurimon
- No one has caused mass genoices in the name atheism, many have done so in the name of religion. Sure Stalin was an atheist, but that was not his platform for genocide...bobkat
- ukit20
lol...yeah every atheist is like Stalin and Mao. Every feminist is a lesbian. Such a backwards view of the world, you should read and travel more.
- IF you want to stick to your proponents. yes. You wouldn't believe soviet propaganda,?would you?yurimon
- I am talking from my experience of extreme groups. ballsyurimon
- the fact you have experience with extremist religious views makes you poor suited for this conversationautoflavour
- yurimon0
Atheism: is religion. without the concept of god there is no such thing as atheism period. the whole concept is an antithesis depending on its survival on an opposite thesis. double irony.
Real christians dont celebrate Christmas, Its a mix bag of beliefs that originated from Druids, Scandinavians, Egyptians and Romans..
Having said that there are also very few real christians and jews on this planet including orthodox, based on in how these groups comprehend and follow the bible... another irony...
The closest group in my opinion to real christianity in practice from my search are the early quakers.
- imagine if there was no John Lennon.qTime
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- Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is the absence of belief.Melanie
- sine0
- GeorgesII0
the circlejerk is strong in this thread,
and the worst of it, is people saying
"hey, I'm more open minded then you, but I won't accept your point of view, because i'm RIGHT and you're NOT"FUCKSAKES PEOPLE LET IT GO,
it's christmas, xmas, lubemax, madmax, let it fuckn go,you may also have missed it, but this may be the last christian christmas, so fuckn go to your loved one, hug them and fuck off with the righteous attitude,
"Pope Benedict XVI has revealed in the third installment of his trilogy, dedicated to the life of Christ, that Jesus may have been born earlier than previously thought."
- utopian0
I am going to turn this into a jewish thread!
- ukit20
Funny thing is most atheist I know are really laid back about it...we all celebrate Christmas and Easter. Most people are very tolerant of religion....it's the cultural conservatives who get all bent out of shape by this "waronChristmas" stuff.
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- I am talking in extremes. ballsyurimon
- I would have a bit more respect to the agnostics. balls
yurimon - balls!ukit2
- utopian0
- I love youmonospaced
- after what happened in the Israel Bombing shit thread, i am afraid to make any comments on this topicautoflavour
- monospaced0
@yurimon
No, atheism does not qualify as a religion. It has supporters, but no followers, because there's nothing to follow. There's nothing to follow as it does not teach (preach) anything, nor expect anyone to believe in anything in order to be a member. Without religion, everyone would be an atheist (just like every other species on the planet that isn't human).- but without the concept of God, there would be no religionmonospaced
- not true, we have the iPhoneprophetone
- well said monospaced.Melanie
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