Can I see it? 1515 Responses

Last post: 8 months, 3 weeks ago | Thread started: Aug 30, 12, 7:20 a.m.

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• honest

  If I had a penny each time we get asked to visualise something because a client can't 'imagine what it would look like'...

  Aug 30, 12, 7:20 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  Don't even get me started. I get these requests even when it's about changing a small word, or a number. Then I find myself working on version 2,104,428 and wanting to shoot myself all because a client has us making a new version for each of their relentless edits and lack of vision.

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:22 a.m. – Permalink

• twokids

  um, that's your job?

  • sometimes it's just part of the process, depending on who you're working with– monospaced

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:23 a.m. – Permalink

• mikotondria3

  It doesn't matter if you can't 'see what it would look like', what's important is that it will look precisely as good or as bad as I say it will; if it would look good, I've probably done it already and shown it to you as part of a 'conjourers' choice' situtation in which I make you think you've added something to the design process by thinking you chose one of a number of equally plausible solutions, or if it won't look good, then I won't have done it, and won't be doing it just so I can show you exactly what I'd pictured, and why I didn't waste the (your) time on it.

  • Trust me, I'm a designer, you hired me for a reason.– honest1/4

    If you said that to a client you'd be fired– monospaced2/4

    I think I would, yes - and rightly so.– mikotondria33/4

    lol miko– monospaced4/4

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:24 a.m. – Permalink

• vaxorcist

  clients can't previsualize, but they can learn to trust us if we're able to control the "reality distortion field" well enough and sell them on our ultimate-whiz-bang-just-trust-th... then there's a lot less of this....

  but once you're going down this road, it may mean you didn't start the process right, as they're already trying to be a co-designer rather than a client...

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:25 a.m. – Permalink

• twokids

  Yeah, you have to take control immediately and cut that off by showing them things that YOU think are right.

  They are kind of like animals that need to be trained

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:27 a.m. – Permalink

• GeorgesII

  stop complaining,
  I'm currently working on a composite for a new kid toy that looks like a buttplug
  sadly the client doesn't visualize it like I do :(

  • is it myFirstButtPlug™ ?– mikotondria31/2

    hahahaha! explain your visualization and show them pics of your visuals– k_temp2/2

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:29 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  Sometimes my clients are actually answering to higher-ups on their end. Each time they ask for these inane iterations they apologize knowing that I'm just tweaking a word or a color. They sometimes try to appeal to me saying that they're stuck in the middle and that the partner or something needs to see the edit in a new file. Honestly, as long as they pay, can't really complain too much.

  • the trick is to make your business model so that they PAY for this shit.... or don't do it..– vaxorcist1/2

    rightly so.– k_temp2/2

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:30 a.m. – Permalink

• honest

  let's swing this around.

  I can't tell if I'm going to like this particular dish on your menu. Can you prepare it for me and then I can decide if I like it or not?

  In fact, can I come into your restaurant and eat what I want, only my budget is limited so I'll want a discount if at possible?

  • Restaurants and chefs have a long legecy of managed expectations and - dare I say it - respect from their clients.– mikotondria31/9

    It's up to us to either add to the reputation of our industry, or detract from it - with every interaction, with every client.– mikotondria32/9

    just post the video, it's better than just quoting it as if you made it up– monospaced3/9

    I just want to produce the best work I can for a client, and not pussy-foot around them if they get in the way of that - for their– mikotondria34/9

    benefit overall, not just for my sense of importance. That's why you're not allowed in the kitchen at restuarants - you'll get in the way of the process.– mikotondria35/9

    just get in the way of the process.– mikotondria36/9

    dishes are diff, they are premade products, you have an idea what you are getting. Unlike design which we have to create from scratch– k_temp7/9

    create from scratch. Now if you ask a chef make me a sweet dish with strawberry... thats more like it– k_temp8/9

    Possibly so, actually.
    Hot wordpress template pie, please !– mikotondria39/9

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:40 a.m. – Permalink

• bjladams

  i charge by the hour - so... my clients are entitled to see as many things as they like.

  • funny, that's what the lapdancer said too...– honest1/2

    they're both service industries.– bjladams2/2

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:44 a.m. – Permalink

• honest

  I was unaware there's a video – what is it called?

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:45 a.m. – Permalink

• monospaced

  @honest

  • this is hilarious!– honest

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:48 a.m. – Permalink

• twokids

  The great story about that I love is about the famous producer David O. Selznick (Gone with the Wind) and a writer he just hired. This is in the 30s. The writer was to write a ballroom scene in this movie and the writer asked him:
  "How do you want me to write it"
  to which David O. Selznick replied,
  "I don't know, I haven't read it yet"

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 7:55 a.m. – Permalink

• Mr_Mxyzptlk

  

  • Willem!– monospaced

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 8 a.m. – Permalink

• vaxorcist

  Apple's Genius Bar training manual has a LOT of interesting info about how to control the interaction with clients/customers, to empathise but still keep loyalty and make money at the same time..

  http://gizmodo.com/5938323/how-t…

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 8:21 a.m. – Permalink

• omg

  if you're going to give your clients a gift. Give them the gift, of imagination...

  

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  Dog-earAug 30, 12, 8:28 a.m. – Permalink