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  • Kiino

    Good news for original creators:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/1…

    http://curatorscode.org/

    Mar 11, 12, 9:21 p.m. – Permalink
  • utopian

    Great quote!

    "To be realistic one must always admit the influence of those who have gone before." — Charles Eames

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    Dog-earMar 11, 12, 9:56 p.m. – Permalink
  • Kiino

    Maria Popava, co-founder Curator's Code, in the NYT article above:

    “Discovery of information is a form of intellectual labor,” she said. “When we don’t honor discovery, we are robbing somebody’s time and labor. The Curator’s Code is an attempt to solve some of that.”

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 10:55 a.m. – Permalink
  • colin_s

    yeah, but "discovery of information" is not "hang out on tumblr all day."

    tumblrs that just say "hey this shit isn't mine, but i'm going to post it anyway without attribution!" are the fucking worst. your sense of taste is just like everyone else's who can't take the time to actually make things, you jackass.

    • < yep– Kiino1/2
      nobody's claiming they created the stuff– scarabin2/2
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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 10:58 a.m. – Permalink
  • Kiino

    ^ tumblr = jacker's paradise

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 11:22 a.m. – Permalink
  • designquestions

    Fuck everyone who has a tumblr or re-tweets things.

    • why?– scarabin1/6
      that's kind of what it's for– scarabin2/6
      tumblrs that just say "hey this shit isn't mine, but i'm going to post it anyway without attribution!" are the fucking worst. your sense of taste is just like everyone else's who can't take the time to actually make things, you jackass.– designquestions3/6
      tumblrs aren't claiming that all of the content is theirs.– scarabin4/6
      Scars is right. Always.– Hombre_Lobo5/6
      That wasn't sarcasm, totally agree dude, this is a silly post.– Hombre_Lobo6/6
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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 11:30 a.m. – Permalink
  • monNom

    so we'll replace 'via' with some tiny little character that nobody knows what it means? seems like a solution in search of a problem.

    I do agree that people should cite their sources when blogging their 'discoveries'.

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 1:03 p.m. – Permalink
  • Kiino

    There's clearly a lot of gray area & an ongoing dilemma.

    The web is great for sharing. Hooray, let's share ideas, thoughts, art, etc.!

    The problem comes when the complete absence of respect/attribution for original creators or sources is taken to the Nth degree. The big winners in the wide-open-aggregator-take-anythi... equation are the hijackers, er aggregators.

    "Sharing" ought to be balanced so that original creators are not removed from the equation, regardless of whether the sharing is via large news sites or smaller indie blogs.

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 2:15 p.m. – Permalink
  • scarabin

    i view tumblrs like pic of the day...

    nobody's saying "i created every image in pic of the day", that's just clearly obvious. same thing with tumblr. nobody honestly believes the owner is claiming that all of it is theirs. credit the author if you feel like providing more information, or don't. who the fuck cares, they're not making money off it.

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 2:18 p.m. – Permalink
  • scarabin

    if you've really got a problem with people not putting your name after every instance your image appears ont he web, put your name in the image itself. done

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 2:19 p.m. – Permalink
  • Kiino

    I've been adding imbedded photo credits more & more lately to my own work. But a lot of publications, etc. ask for clean images since they credit according to their "standard design format." So the more talk of attribution I hear, the better. I'd think most original creators...illustrators, graphic designers, writers, artists, musicians would agree.

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 2:36 p.m. – Permalink
  • Nathan_Adams

    So is it more important to credit the person who "found" something, than the person who created it in the first place? Good to know.

    • I'd say equal importance. But that's just me.– Kiino1/4
      Equal? Surely crediting the creator FAR outweighs crediting the person tweeting/tumblring it.– Nathan_Adams2/4
      It's still nice to know how it got there. But sure, original creator over the vehicle/last source.– Kiino3/4
      as long as I can trace it back to the source (creator) I'm happy.– monNom4/4
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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 4:05 p.m. – Permalink
  • Kiino

    Attribution case study #1:
    Johnny 15 year-old shares your work on Tumblr because it reminds him of his favorite Santigold song. For some reason, an art director at an ad agency sees it, wants to license it or something else in your personal archive. The deadline is in 48 hrs. Wouldn't you want it to be easy for the ad agency (whether it's based in Scotland or Italy or St. Louis) to find you instantly?

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 4:08 p.m. – Permalink
  • scarabin

    well, in case study #1 you can either try and create "rules" for the entire internet regarding how to handle your work, then shout and scream and cry all day when everyone ignores you, or you can put your name on the piece in question and put an end to the problem before it even becomes one.

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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 4:16 p.m. – Permalink
  • Kiino

    Scarabin, I get what you're saying. I don't see it as an either / or proposition. I understand setting up rules will always be viewed as shouting and screaming, but I don't think the situation needs to be considered mutually exclusive.

    In my view, I don't have a problem with Johnny15 posting. But if he got a screen grab off a website which only placed credits outside of the image or at the end of a blog post, then that original creator is pushed out of the equation for the rest of that work's journey through cyberspace. Graphic designers, photographers, directors and musicians are all in the same boat.

    • Well, not musicians when it comes to visual art...but they get jacked all the time too.– Kiino
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    Dog-earMar 12, 12, 6:10 p.m. – Permalink

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